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Yo, yo, yo, yo yo.
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Thank you for tuning in to another episode of the Culture.
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This is episode 155.
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As you can see, I'm your boy, jeff.
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I am not here with my main man, ant.
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We got another special guest today filling in.
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He is a longtime listener and supporter of the Culture.
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He is Lindsey of Revolt Records.
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Thank you for joining me today, man.
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What's going?
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on buddy.
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Introduce yourself to the folks, bro.
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My name's Lindsay, one of the co-owners and founders of Revolt Records, little independent record label based out of Rhode Island.
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We got artists and acts from the UK, Mississippi, Rhode Island.
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We've worked with some people down in Maryland, North Carolina, Just kind of doing that, making as much music as we can with some of the most talented artists we can find.
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As he casually handles his drug paraphernalia.
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It was a rough night.
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I'm still recovering.
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Oh shit, all right, man, man, let's get right into it, man, because, as you've known if you've been hearing the last few episodes, I try to get right into it.
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I try not to make long episodes anymore, because I've learned that this generation's attention span is fucking minuscule as fuck.
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I try to keep episodes no more than 30 minutes.
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So all right, let's get right into some of these topics.
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I got a lot of things going on today I want to discuss.
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Uh, met the man, something he said.
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I do have a new ghetto word of the week.
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All right, but first, is that racist?
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No, apple music recently released their top 100 best albums of all time, correct, yeah?
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They did all right, I'm not for before.
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Before we get into it, I'm not going to pretend that apple music is the end, all be all.
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You know what I mean.
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And music authority, but they are respected conglomerate right.
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Yeah, it was better than rolling stone right and they put out the 100 album, not hip-hop albums, albums in general, of all genres, yep.
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And they put miss lauren hill, the miseducation of lauren hill, as their number one.
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And here we have a picture of her and ebro from hot 97 as they're giving her the you know, telling her the news that her album was chose number one.
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And of course you see the backlash.
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And aunt knows this.
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You probably know this from hearing the show.
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Like you know how I feel about lauren hill, I know I have miseducation in my top five of hip-hop albums hip-hop albums of all time and she's not even number one.
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She's in my top five but she's not even number one in that genre.
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So it's safe to say that I wouldn't even put her number one of all time in any genre.
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I agree, and we'll get into the criterias.
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We're going to get into the criterias soon.
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But they had Thriller at number 2.
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Let's look up the whole list here.
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I'm not going to go through the whole 100, but we could do at least the top 10.
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We could dissect the top 10.
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At least this is the list.
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They had Beyonce at 10.
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They had Nirvana at list they had beyonce at 10, they had nirvana at nine.
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They had amy winehouse.
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Rest in peace.
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At eight.
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Kendrick lamar good kid mad city at seven.
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Stevie wonder at six.
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Frank ocean five.
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Prince purple, rain for the beatles.
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Three, michael jackson thriller, which would be my all-time number one of any genre.
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They have him at two and lauren hill at number one.
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So give me your take on this shit, man.
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The people are losing their shit online and I tell people like, look man, these lists don't mean anything.
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If you've gone on my youtube page, I got all types of lists and a lot of people are like, oh, what the fuck is this?
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It gets people talking, right?
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That's that's what these lists are.
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People love lists.
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Top 10 lists people love them.
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I love lists.
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I always do lists on anything top five rappers, top this, top players, whatever.
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It's just a conversation starter.
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They don't mean shit.
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This is not the definitive list of anything.
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They just got a bunch of people in a room.
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They all had their opinion, they all followed whatever criteria they wanted to follow and this is what they came up with and it gets people talking and for weeks people were talking about this fucking shit and you know it feels like they made the list based off of you know what was the biggest album, maybe not what was necessarily the best album.
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A lot of those albums in there were fucking huge in their time, yeah, but I wouldn't even say that Miseducation was bigger than any of those other albums either.
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I don't know if I'd go that far, but Miseducation was fucking huge.
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Blonde was fucking huge.
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Abbey Road was fucking huge.
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In my opinion, there's only maybe two or three albums in that list that belong there in terms of quality.
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Everything else just feels like this was like one of the biggest moments of its time, of its era, and so they put it up there for that.
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But fucking lemonade, no, absolutely not, absolutely not.
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Blonde, absolutely not.
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Abbey road, absolutely fucking not.
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Winehouse am Amy Winehouse?
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Amy Winehouse?
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Absolutely not.
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Like, if you're not putting anything from Pink Floyd, anything from Zeppelin, over Amy Winehouse, it's just fucking ridiculous.
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The Cure disintegration being, if I'm not mistaken, it was like number 27 or number 28.
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Like that's one of the most perfect albums ever made, in my opinion, in terms of not even genre, just across the board.
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That is an absolute perfect, fucking album.
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Fucking um miles davis yeah, kind of blue, but again one of the most perfect albums, in my opinion, that's ever been made.
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Didn't even crack the fucking top 10.
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Like it just seems they're going for what was big, what was the most popular, what maybe had a lot of influence moving forward.
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But I mean, dude, frank ocean being above stevie, are you out of your mind?
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and I love again, I love the miseducation.
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A lot of people don't even consider it a hip-hop album.
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They think it's an r&b album.
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It has a lot of singing, but it does have a lot of rapping, so to me it's a hip-hop album.
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I have a blend.
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I have it maybe number two or three in my top five list of hip-hop albums.
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As far as of all time albums, yo fucking thriller.
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That's like the only album I've ever seen that has like every song is a single.
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Every song is like a number one hit single on the entire album.
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Like what other albums can you say that shit about?
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Yeah, but also beyond that.
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I mean Thriller is filled with quality music from start to finish.
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I mean they got huge because of how good the songs were, not because of, oh, marketing, promotion, how we pushed it, how we did.
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This stupid little fucking marketing technique Like Thriller is based off of the quality of its fucking content, like hands down.
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Just because everything kind of went huge doesn't really change anything, because the quality of that album, start to finish, is fucking impeccable.
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So I got no problem with that.
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It's just some of these other ones like you have no business putting blonde above songs in the key of life.
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Again, one of the most perfect albums ever made by an artist in the past 40, 50 years.
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So what was the criteria, you ask?
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I pulled it up.
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Oh shit, all right, the voters.
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I don't know how many of them were they, but they were challenged not to vote for their favorites.
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But this is the criteria Albums that represented a cultural moment for the artist or genre.
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Albums that were complete thoughts, not just collections of hit songs.
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Albums that thoroughly represent culture and production and lyrics.
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Albums that inspired a generation to want to create more music.
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Albums that represent the best in storytelling, musicianship, recording and production.
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And, finally, albums that are timeless and reached far beyond the genre categorization.
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Those were supposedly the criteria.
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It doesn't seem like quality is up on that list.
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It does seem like it's just basically influence what was big, what was popular, what had the most amount of buzz and what continued to have buzz even, you know, decades later.
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There's nothing wrong with it.
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I'm just saying if we're going for best albums of all time, we got to bring quality into it.
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You have to bring in the album as a whole.
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You have to bring in what's the album trying to say.
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How do the songs convey the message that the album and the overall theme is trying to, you know, convey and get across.
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And I mean there's so many albums out there that do that, and at such a high level that they, in my opinion, belong on this list over some of these other albums.
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Like I just can't believe beyonce Lemonade is in the top 10 albums ever made.
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I wouldn't have put that in the top 100.
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This is a dumb conspiracy, but do you think Lauren paid them to do this?
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Because right after she announced that she's making a new album that she'll be dropping this year.
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Now I don't think she would have more money.
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I don't think she has more money than anybody on this list, because if Beyonce wanted to pay Apple Music to put her number one, she has the resources to do that shit.
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I mean I'm sure people are paying to get their stuff up higher, but I mean that really, unless you're doing like an Apple exclusive, what the fuck does it matter?
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Right and maybe, she is, maybe she is.
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Maybe she is, though that hasn't happened in a while, like I can't think of the last big artist who was like okay, I'm only gonna put this out.
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Wasn't it black star?
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Didn't they do some shit like that?
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yeah, they went on.
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They didn't even go on dsps, they went on their own little like streaming platform, yeah, and you could grab it like that, but nothing's gonna be exclusive to just spotify or just apple music.
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So I don't know, maybe she paid, maybe she didn't.
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Regardless, I don't think it fucking belongs there all right, and I don't want to make this out to be like oh, we're bashing lauren, because everybody knows I love.
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No, I love that fucking album man Love it, but does it deserve to be even on the top 10 of this list?
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With some of the other albums that exist out there in the ether over the past.
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What are we?
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rolling stones.
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Rolling Stones had their top 100.
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And I don't even think Miseducation was in the top 10.
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I'm not mad at that.
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I'm not mad if it's in the top 10.
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I'm not mad if it's out of the top 10.
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I just don't think it's number one, like I just don't.
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There's just so many other great bands and great artists over the years that deserve recognition for the art that they created.
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Over somebody who's like Beyonce, like oh, this is one of the biggest, if not the biggest, female artists in the world and this album was fucking everywhere when it came out.
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That's great and the album's good.
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I'm not shitting on Lemonade, you know for what it is.
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It's a good fucking album.
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It's just, man, there's so much out there.
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Like how are you going to put that over Miles Davis?
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How are you going to put that over the Cure?
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How are you going to put that over Led Zeppelin?
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How are you going to put that over?
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I was surprised I didn't see some rock albums in there.
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You know what I'm saying.
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Like you said, Led Zeppelin.
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Some of those classic rock, even Nirvana, like I love, nevermind.
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Well, Nirvana was on there.
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Yeah, nevermind is a great album.
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Is it one of the greatest top 10 albums ever created?
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I don't think so, and Kurt Cobain.
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I like their other album better.
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What's the one with the naked baby in the cover?
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I like Bleach and I like In Utero.
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What's the one on the list all?
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right, cool, cool, and that was the name of the album.
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I didn't even know that was the name of that shit.
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Yeah, that was never mind it's a great album.
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It really is, and I just it's not my favorite.
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I get.
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We're not going for favorites on this, we're going for like start to finish what I would do quality of the album, start to finish, content message, like all of that.
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I agree.
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Like, nevermind is up there for nirvana, it's just I think nirvana has better albums than nevermind.
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Plus, you didn't get any pearl jam 10 uh, not on there.
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I didn't see that up there.
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Um, alice in chains dirt like.
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If you're gonna go from so you know some of those classic grunge era albums.
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I mean, if nirvana nevermind is up there, some of these other ones belong to like.
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In my opinion, 10 from pearl jam is a better album than nirvana nevermind.
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That might be a hot take, I don't know, but it's just how I look at it.
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I'm sure some people on twitter might have some shit to say about that shit.
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We'll find out.
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Shout out to the barbershop.
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Yo, all right, man, let's get into this ghetto.
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Ghetto, word of the week.
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What do we got?
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Yeah, I wish ant was here for this.
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Have you ever heard of the term jigaboo, not to be confused with like jugaboo, because, right, they didn't like, they didn't like beyonce have a song where you're a jugaboo, the jugaboo, jugaboo.
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This is not that.
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This is jiggaboo are you a white racist motherfucker.
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Why are you laughing at this?
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So you know?
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I just I know what jiggaboo is, okay, well, I didn't know that this was a derogatory term until I looked it up on urban dictionary.
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This is new to you.
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This word is new to me as far as being a fucking derogatory term.
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Okay, according to urban dictionary, it is a black or african-american person who the fuck knew.
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I've never heard somebody refer to nobody as a yo, you fucking jigaboo.
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I mean, I never heard that shit and the senses that they used was yo.
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The other night I went to harlem and saw jigaboos.
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God damn, that sounds racist as fuck, holy shit yeah, I mean I can't believe we're having is that racist?
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For a racial slur derogatory term?
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that's this is, this is an this is a ghetto word of the week oh, my bad, that's right I guess it could turn into an is that racist moment?
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I don't think we need to question that.
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It's definitely racist.
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It's always been racist.
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So I shouldn't even use the word jigaboo.
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I would not personally.
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Is it as bad as the N word?
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Oh, I don't know if anything in terms of derogatory terms for black people is as bad as the N word, but I mean, that's fucking up there.
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That's a fucked up word.
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It's like.
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I'm moving on because All right.
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I'm curious where it comes from, cause everything has a base, everything has like a starting point Like where the fuck does that come from?
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Does it come?
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from gigolo.
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I don't know.
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I mean mean, how can you turn the word gigolo into something racist?
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I don't know.
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We're gonna have to look up that words.
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Uh, what is it etymology?
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What's the word I'm looking for?
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we gotta look that up all right, let me move on man so hot 97 recently had their yearly summer jam concert.
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Right, met the man and red man perform like they always do.
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So Hot 97 recently had their yearly Summer Jam concert, right, mm Method man and Redman perform like they always do, yup, like they always start the shit off high intensity, right, yes, sir, jumping off the stage doing all types of wild shit.
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I posted up the XXL Magazine cover there where Method man says he's not coming back to perform at Summer Jam.
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His direct quote was never again.
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At this point, the generation gap is just too wide for me, no-transcript.
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And look at the lineup.