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Yo yo yo yo thank you for tuning in to another episode of the culture episode 92 is your boy Jeff here with my man at was good yo Hello everybody how are you? 20 now for me what you mean not for you. Now for me when
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they build a dispensary like five minutes from my house that should have been lined up, like to give out drugs and shit.
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I went to work and it was packed out on the way back and we're through like 150 people out there lined up. They never smoked weed before Jesus.
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But this is a monumental episode a historic episode because we are going to be collaborating with Mikey and Ren eat in a snowman. Resident guests Mikey she's podcasts with him his wife, where they talk about food and other stuff but we're gonna collaborate with them. We're gonna fuse the two and we're gonna be talking hip hop and food, food
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and food
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in hip hop, hip hop in food. However you want to say it's hip hop and food. So that's that's an it's a simulcast to their episode actually comes out Wednesday, Thursdays, ours comes out on Monday. So there's there's this coming out a few days before ours. So you actually go check that shit out Mikey and Rin eat in. But this week is a simulcast, we recorded one episode. They putting it on their shed. We're putting it on our ship. I don't think that's ever been done before. I think that's groundbreaking shit.
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I have I'm not sure have not done the proper research and let us know if that is true or the factual or not and have no idea. We don't love we don't love food. We don't look it up. I mean, if you don't love either, why you listen to other podcasts you should have been right.
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But like I said, it's for 20 so happy for 20 and what what goes well with 420 food. You get the munchies, you're gonna eat some food.
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I wonder if it's snacks with no food? No, no, it's shit.
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I mean snacks is food. I mean, it depends. I mean, I guess potato chips or shit. Like that isn't considered food. But when I got the munchies, I want food.
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It's kind of like depends on how high you are. But you might just eat whatever is there. Like you might just like have potato chips and and make some eggs. And like a turkey sandwich like that shit don't work, but when you have it all works together, I guess. But I mean, it's it. I mean, it's good now, I mean, this especially is a fabulous full 20 Plus thing and it also kind of went notifies the day that now like legal this week. No, Lila's weed Jesus Christ weed is legal to consume in the state of New Jersey Correct? Right but like only to a particular degree like you can carry only so much I think New York so don't don't be yeah but don't be driving around with like like a brick or weed in the car like that's trapped and you're going to jail below small amounts that's that's good man. It'd been too many laws fuck with people over for little tiny amounts of marijuana and then they make illegal hopefully do something about the people who've been incarcerated that like like only have like maybe an eighth on him and that it has been eight years in prison hopefully it caused some changes in the system but you know, it's a good day. I mean, those windows and joj make good choices. Have fun, be happy,
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but Mikey and render out in Portland, Oregon, and everything is legal out that motherfucker. Yeah, they don't do what you can snort cocaine you can shoot heroin down give a fuck.
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I get it but like make good choices. Like just because you can doesn't mean you got to like you're bad. You're
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more focused. With needles in the arms it should powder all up and I
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know you don't do that dopamine hit when you seem like like stuck in the middle of the air or like stuck on Paul's like leaning on the bowl. Yeah, they're gonna take the new lead they often feel that that rush going into the system, but nah, I don't want you know, that's a great idea. I've forgot to ask them like Have they ever had any weed infused foods? That kind of slipped my mind I know they don't make no cocaine and infuse probably kill you. But I know we had a few the other place in New York that has a whole tasting menu. We got
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to take Mikey coming in a couple of months right? We should take his as the I think around June.
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Like all we infuse everything like cakes pies. I mean, like now like, like sweets and treats like actual food like spaghetti, and pasta and all other kinds of cheese. Somebody told him about the job. She heard she or her daughter ended up taking them there for like, just because she was how fast but it happened. She said she had a great time. I mean, I guess that's a plus. I'd have we'd have to do that to you.
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She but yeah, I mean, it's gonna be interesting. Talking about hip hop, talking about food, hip hop and food. Yeah, because the idea came about because obviously we wanted to collaborate. And we figured, you know, we were thinking about how can we, you know, merge the two.
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I mean, their podcast is about food. He's a chef. You know, I'm saying our shit is about hip hop culture. And it occurred to me that there's a lot of food in hip hop lyrics. Right now.
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Obviously the most famous one is T bone steak cheese eggs and Welch's great and we're gonna we're definitely gonna get that's the principle shit.
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That's the main that's the main course. Pun intended
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if something if something about that line and like if it and you put up a poll about it with a poll to see to see what the vibe was,
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yeah because a lot of people are poor and they don't know what the what he means when he said Welch's grape was a jello was a soda was a juice.
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We're gonna get down to the nitty gritty.
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I tried to make it reasonable. I tried to take a reasonable stance on it. I don't know if I was right or I was wrong. I just want to stand on my ground. I said what I said and I stick by it.
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But also before we forget.
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We lost another one man. Rest in peace Kay Slay. DJ Kay Slay. I didn't even know he was sick.
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Because he'd been dropping and dropping fire share all types of mixtapes or type of what was them shares that he was doing?
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We kept putting like 100 dudes on us on a song. The rolling deep, he just kept dropping rolling Deeps. 50 people rolling deeper honey rolling deep. 150 I was like, damn.
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Yeah, but you notice if you go back and watch the videos, you're gonna see a minute. I think he's in there real quick. I think the beginning to roll the 51 early one, but not the rolling one tenderly.
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Now you hear people like, you know, so so get him you know. I mean?
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Yeah, I mean you could do to vote and stuff but I mean, like, for a friendship for four months. That's a long
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time you got a COVID Hmm.
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But think COVID is over and that's just still out here bro.
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They got new variants kill him off focus left them right.
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They're gonna keep on trying to they're gonna keep like, Oh God no mask. I don't need I imagine there'll be next contestant on the samba Jim screen. Trust me, you don't got to do this.
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My job got me coming back over here stressing getting all type of anxiety like, Yo, I don't really want to be around people like that.
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Now, I mean, it's, it doesn't change anything, you got to follow the same protocol head, you know, facemask on keeping distance if you can, like I said, y'all have a model that kind of is efficient, but people don't need to really be on top of each other. So I mean, a lot of the keep doing that. It should be fine. I mean, a lot of people. Let me rewind it, I apologize. I'm speaking too fast. It's not the job thing.
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It's the kind of journal of society thing is that we go to the other places, like all of a sudden, like before, everybody's in a supermarket wearing a mask.
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Like going there. No one's wearing a mask or you're going to a store or you're going to a restaurant Cabo for restaurants was like you know we can't sit X amount of people here can we got to keep tablespace they're not no more man. Oh, that's just the same so the most important thing you still got to be safe about it it's hard to kind of get people across to tell them to deal with this and the most efficient manner the most efficient manner has been the same rules of before where mass keeping distance keep your hands clean no stay away from those that you know are affected and if you sick don't go to work.
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simple formula.
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But your let's take a quick break man early break shout out to our coach a crew.
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We appreciate Ciao, we see ya.
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And when we come back from this quick break, we're gonna get into this collaboration with Mikey and Ren eat in the culture eats in with Mikey and Rinne How does that sound
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so delicious, is good.
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Yeah, there we go. They represent a culture to represent like the culture podcast. All right, we're here with the ultimate collab is Mikey and Ren eat in meets the culture. Yo, yo, yo, yo. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I'm Mikey. I'm Jeff. I'm ready.
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Oh, it's my turn.
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Yo, this is our episode 92. And this is your episode.
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94. Correct.
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I think that's right.
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Yeah. And we decided to get together. So for those who listen to our show. I go I go on the culture kind of every once in awhile to talk hip hop and all sorts of different stuff with Jeff and Dan, and we thought it'd be a super cool idea if we got together and we talked about hip hop and food and Have those two things merge because they so frequently do lyrically, as well as just kind of culturally,
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facts. We're going to merge the two. And I think we're actually, if I'm not mistaken, this might be podcast history that we're creating right now.
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This might be very this might be the very first simulcast episode. Do you think that's right? I think so. I can't be right. I mean, I think so. Fuck,
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I'm hearing some molds being broken. We're getting awards for this, you
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know what I'm saying? I mean, just because of the legalities. You know, I'm pretty sure no other podcasts have done that. You know, I mean, all right.
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Yeah, cuz we're gonna we're basically going to take this one episode that we recorded together. And, you know, we're gonna each doodle our little things with it. But we're gonna basically release the same episode on both of our podcasts, basically, around the same time. So this is
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like some Guinness Book of World Records shit or something that's happening, right?
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I'll tell you guys just food related shit. I just saw that a kid that I went to the Culinary Institute of America with. He just got a Guinness Book of World Records for having the most What Was it really that well, the most pizza related items. So he has 500 and something items that are all one of a kind, pizza related items.
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And he got a Guinness Book of World Records award.
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What? Yeah, it was just something man. It's a hobby response.
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I was just gonna ask you first on your show, but you guys curse more than we do.
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Oh, we curse way more Randox favorite word, the C word. And we're not talking about cows own.
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Cows are delicious Caucasian.
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wants to lead us off here. So we're gonna basically we're just gonna throw out something that's kind of our favorite hip hop and food related convergence. Jeff, you want to run with it? Sure.
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Me and mentioned it in our the intro of our episode, but I just want to give a rest in peace to DJ Kay slate. We're looking to merge Edelman.
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And he was young had COVID for I mean, 50. I don't think 55 is young. That is young. Yeah. And he had COVID for what? Four and a half months or something. Wow. All right.
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Well,
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so first and foremost, let me get this one out of the way because it's probably the most famous food lyric in hip hop history. Okay, and it is from the biggie song one more chance where he describes his favorite breakfast.
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And it's kind of time you got a T.
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I want you to say it then I have a question to immediately. Yep. All right.
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Okay. Yes.
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So in the song one more chance. The Notorious BIG says and I quote, T bone steak cheese eggs and Welch's grape conversate for a few then we're gonna do what we came to do.
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Ain't that right? Bucha true.
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Okay, go ahead.
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True. This was the first lyric that all of us said when we thought about this episode, by the way, correct.
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When you hear what is a great Do you think jelly soda or juice? Juice?
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I've always thought grape juice
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is definitely not gelato is definitely not gelato is great drink. I don't want to sound racist, but that's historically, purple drink.
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purple drink is what African Americans are known to drink.
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That's the stereotype without sounding racist, so I'm gonna go on a limb buddy. I'm gonna go on a limb and say that he was talking about purple drink.
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And what do you think?
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I have always wondered this because steak and eggs is a breakfasted? Yeah, right. But like he says what is great, but I think he would have like he would have mentioned toast.
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That's right. That's why his juice, eggs and jelly don't go together at all. That's why it's not jelly. Like it might be great juice. Dude, but it's big.
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Like I wouldn't put it past a 300 have jelly eggs and stick together. Oh, yeah. Not mind blowing.
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I think I've always thought of it like kind of like, you know, putting jelly on lamb or like putting jelly on meat like grape jelly. I don't know, dude. I think I've always thought that it was like him put it's like because he was a big boy. Like putting grape jelly on his steak. And cheese and eggs.
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Like all together. I just always thought it was like so gluttonous and amazing. Could be the drink. I don't know. Jeff, does that
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even sound appetizing to you? First of all that whole breakfast doesn't sound appetizing. Fucking delicious.
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No, great. And I'm a breakfast person. Anthony will tell you. I eat eggs every day. I can't start my day without eggs. I've had steak and eggs. I don't know about the cheese part.
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Oh, I'm into it.
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What do you think's cheesy eggs?
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Yeah, but now, now with steak though. Come
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on, Chef Jeff. Not with steak. Yes, definitely.
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With steak. Definitely with steak.
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Yeah, you're like a soft scrambled egg. We're like creaminess. Hell, yeah. You got it. It works. Is it like I said, if Snoop Dogg says it doesn't go off as well because We'd like to we'd like to get a really big guy be like, yeah, I could see him being jelly with this shit.
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Yeah, but it fits.
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Yeah, that's where my head went with that, but I don't know why we put it out to the audience.
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I always just assumed to that it was it was just a big ass breakfast and toast was just gonna be included.
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And let's be real jelly in the song. He's not eating this at breakfast time. He's eating this in the middle of the night. Like this is a drunk post club experience. Yeah, he's eating some Dinah's shit, like I'm fucking Slavin. Whatever on whatever. Yeah, no, fair enough.
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Well, this is what I'm gonna do. What I'm gonna do, this is what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna go ahead and create a Twitter post with a with a poll.
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And then I'm gonna see what with what the audience votes and, you know, we could talk about at the end of the episode, see what they think, is great. I'm telling you that Welch's grape is juice. But
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okay, go ahead. Now, I believe you're saying that this actually three types of words, the grape juice, the soda and the jelly, right? And depending on how you feel about it, it's going to kind of reflect what your answer is going to be.
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I mean, I would argue to say that the juice and the and the soda are the least disgusting versions of it, but I just figured the reason that he was discussing it was because it was, I mean, it's a frog. That's a like a diner meal for a king.
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If you're slathering grape jelly on steak that feels it's taken to a whole nother place. I love it.
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Like, I don't know how you're gonna get coffee in there. Right?
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Or was he just was he sneaking champagne in so he's already drinking that on the side. And so he just the grape jelly was just a drunken move.
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Oh, I'm rich. And I'm going to a diner. I'm thinking shit I'm putting on the table.
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Yeah, no, that's true.
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Tip or not.
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Bring me a fucking bucket of ice. Please.
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Can I have a jar of grape jelly? I love that. Jar.
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Yeah, the big one. And I'm gonna figure it out biggest fuck.
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Okay, okay, go ahead.
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Alright, so I have I have a list of things there. And then it's super long. So I have basically three sets of quotes.
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But then I've also just got all the other places like I'm probably not going to mention like, all the kind of hip hop related movies that I feel like influenced so much of my food, like I think about CB 40. With the eat just sit down and eat that big ass biscuit. I think about that biscuit all the time.
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I also think about Boys in the Hood and menace to society, both of which had very strong food related murder scenes in all of those movies. But I wouldn't say that necessarily made me feel hungry. Poetic Justice to Oh, poetic justice had some really good food related stuff because he was going to Jujubee before Yeah, yeah, clapped. Yeah, so I'm going to start my first one is going to be from Goody mom.
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Soul Food. One of my favorite foods dogs of all time and it's Seelos vers fried chicken and macaroni and cheese and collard greens too big for my jeans. I didn't understand I didn't know what this next line was which is smoke stains from under the lid that's on the pot I never had a lot of thankful for the food that I got but my favorite part of the whole thing is fast food fast food got me feeling sick them crackers think they slick by trying to make the this bullshit affordable. I think the Lord that my voice was recordable. If these
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if these ain't the most obese sounding lyrics of all time, these are some fat motherfucker.
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I mean, it just so happens that it's CeeLo saying it too. He's not the hell now is like skinny right?
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I don't think so.
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To understand fried chicken macaroni and cheese and collard greens. I like the holy trinity of soul food for sure.
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Like it begins and ends with they're like you need at least one it's like if you don't have those on your plate. It's not really so food like yeah, you could do you could do smoked you could do smoke ham next you can do black eyed peas you can Yeah, fried fish but that's the Trinity is it's all built around for sure. No, that's probably to shoot it's killing black people.
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ironic about the lyric you're talking about. You know it'd be unhealthy like it's really not
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man good for the soul but soul food is promoting
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high cholesterol hypertension, diabetes. Yeah, all in one song.
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What we don't do cielo is actually he's a cardiovascular surgeon. So he's actually just pushing people towards eating out so that he can have more business on his cardiovascular career. So but it's I mean, this is the thing about that song. I mean, that was like that was such an intro to like and first of all, every time I hear that song, I think about going and getting wings every every verse has something else that I just get completely get a hankering for. So one of my favorite foods and they also talk about food a ton in Goodie Mob's music in general. I just I love it.
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Seriously.
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We got to say when me and my wife got married, we went to Vegas for our honeymoon. And we stayed at the Eiffel Tower Hotel. Okay, we go to the Paris the Paris Yeah, that's what it was called the Paris Yeah, yeah, the Eiffel Tower is actually the restaurant. So we go to the restaurant. And what we had was Escar. Go, which comes from France. Sure. I had no idea what it was a chef's Delicious, right. Come to find out. I was eating snails. The show was scrumptious. Yeah, garlicky and mushroomy. So it reminded me of a lyric from Biggie again. I'm staying on biggie. We're in from the song hypnotize where he goes, I can
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just take it he's just taking another one.
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He goes I can fill you with real millionaire shit Escar gold my car go. And yeah, the shit was expensive. So I guess you know, it went well with his lyric about you know, I mean, being rich. Sure. What the show was delicious.
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There's a there's an old man joke. That's that's got something about the s cargo. I can't remember what it is. But something about a car having an ass on top of it. And he says, look at that as cargo. I've had a lot of old men tell me that joke through the years. Not a good one from our Trading Places. Sure. That's probably where it's from.
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I think the joke goes like, like, I want you to, I want you to buy me a car on which you put an S on a door and s and a trunk is on the roof and F on the hood. Like why do you want the SS so when everyone sees it go by to say look, look at that s car go home like?
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Don't I who's got our next one? And Irin
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room would like step up. Would you like me? Sure.
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I'll go,
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I'll go so so I kind of took this in a little bit of a different direction. Because I don't have necessarily, mine's not lyric specific. Because when I started to think about it, I thought about, you know, being a young girl, and listening to
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music, right? That's right,
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buddy. Oh, you're so sweet. And so what what occurred to me is how frequently women are referred to as food or does food. Or there's some sort of concept around like, us being edible and and delightful.
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Right, but
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are you not,
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but sometimes women refer to themselves as candy or whatever. Like, for example, Little Kim made a whole song saying how many licks does it take to get to the center of the oh,
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well, and then KALISE had milkshake. I mean, that was her whole thing. Right? But the, you know, I saw this sort of theme playing out with a lot with candy. Right? And I just thought it was so interesting, the, like this idea that not only do we have to come and be like, sweet, and you know, like proper, but then you also have to, like, taste sweet. Um, and so I was thinking the light kind of tamest version of that is new editions, Candy Girl, which is you know, like, right, but, um, and, you know, there's no, there's not necessarily a mention of anything.
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I don't think overtly sexual. illicitly. Sexual. Yeah, yes, we also listen to that song today. And like, that fucking song will blow the windows out of your house with the amount of Oh, treble. It's like their voices are squeaky Hi, prepubescent boy. Hi. And then the song has like, almost no base to it. It's candy girl, and I was like, holy shit over fucking glasses in our kitchen.
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We're like cracking like Damn.
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Then we also listened to the next iteration of that which was what?
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Which was, well, that's my next song. Oh, is it sorry?
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Yeah. Is candy. Yeah. Which, you know, slightly more suggestive, I suppose. But yeah, I just I just kept thinking about that the sort of idea that like, well and it's sort of that like Lady in the street, but a freak in the bed, right? Like you have to present this certain like, really dripping with sweetness and you know, be well kind of way once you're in the bedroom.
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And I
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also just think of like theme think of a female rapper if she had a song, like Seelos verse. Like, you know, you could talk about candy and stuff, but if you had a song where you can talk about like, my milkshake, whatever, but if you just had a song we're like, I'm eating fucking Meat Loaf covered with gravy and you know, like, people would be like, well, that's fat cow can't have that song about that. Total double standard.
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Right?
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Yeah, but even even even in 50 cent and you know who did great in the love
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I just we're gonna go ahead bro I'll be right behind you.
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You bet no I just I just want to jump piggyback on what she was saying like 50 cent on the song 21 questions you know he compares his love for the girl like the fat cat loves cake is not an insult though.
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No compliment
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I mean if you mentioned now because oh has it really has a song called Pink cookies in a crack in a plastic bag being crushed by buildings?
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Wait, is that the name of the song?
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Song? It's called Pink cookies in a plastic bag and crushed by a building.
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Oh fuck I don't know that song. It's literally
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like the lamest euphemism for sex if you're talking about like women in regard to describing and being sweet and food and everything else with that, there's pretty much one at tops of mourning.
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French vanilla butter pecan cream. sundaes,
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get in touch and
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remember if Fuck Yeah, the whole
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thing like I said, I get the whole obsession with women and sweetness and yeah, stuff and they taste delicious.
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Not all of them.
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And you remember that?
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Remember the video that we take video and all the all the women in the video wearing either about a pecan shirt or chocolate the lecture? Yeah. Classic.
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I don't know how to turn it around again. God damn.
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Yeah, I know that part. Yeah.
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Well, let me just take it one step further. And maybe I'm like theorizing and overthinking it, which is just what I tend to do. But I find it interesting that it's like that. It's like candy and sweets, and all of this like food that has no sustenance. Like that has no nutritional value.
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You've always been my kale, your folic acid, just really, I live for it. You are my
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not being talked about as beef liver, right?
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I mean, but but also the argument is like, you know, people, they're like Michael Pollan. And some of his books, he talks about the idea that we were we romanticize like flowers, right? And flowers are so feminine. And, you know, one of the reasons for that is like, literally in the natural world, like flowers need to be bright and attractive, so that pollinators go to them, and then they get their pollen and they spread it right. And so and there is something that like, literally, that's a difference between men and women in that, like women are thought of, you know, like the one of the reasons like from an evolutionary perspective that they need to be kind of like bright and attractive or whatever is to signal for mates.
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Right. And so I wonder if there's some kind of like old school evolutionary thing around it like, like candy is colorful candy is bright candy is shiny, but I just think it's more about misogyny. I mean, like Wu Tang, feminists from front to back, but
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I have an update. Yeah. So so far on the Twitter, we're getting votes. Yeah. 86% of people believe Biggie was talking about juice. 14% said.
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And I got some actual comments.
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Some people left some comments.
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Somebody said 1,000% juice and somebody else said is juice because I drank that all the time as a kid. I remember hearing big papa for the first time and thinking a Yo, Biggie a real one like me sipping the Welch's grape. And then somebody else said he was talking about Welch's grape soda, and I don't even think it's made soda. But maybe they did. I don't know.
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They do. They do.
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Okay, you're asking a black person? They do. All right. Cool. Yeah. So it might be soda.
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They're moving along.
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Yeah. I mean, it makes more sense that it's a drink obviously. I just think that I just kind of thought about it like a drunken late night just pile everything on the plate, including jelly.
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I want I want I want to sweet something on the plate to fuck yeah. So yeah.
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Okay, I had a question.
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This is gonna, this is a real serious question here. For Rin because from what I understand, Rin is Italian Correct? Sure.
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Yep. Okay. So what is the obsession? Or what is even the connection between spaghetti and the mafia? The mob the Italian lifestyle? Criminology? I don't know. And I'll tell you what I mean. When I think of spaghetti, what Okay, no, no, it's not racist. I'll tell you. I'll tell you I'm going
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to speak for all Italians and Italian Americans.
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Spaghetti is mentioned a lot in hip hop songs. And I'll give you an example a Big Pun in the song twins. He goes happened to Homer the punishes ready meet me at vetoes with noodle will do this do what he slurping spaghetti. First of all, what restaurant is vetoes? And who's noodle, but okay. There are there they're obviously preparing to do a heist And when they're gonna go meet this guy at vetoes he's eating spaghetti.
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Okay, so they're gonna kill him while he's eating spaghetti.
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Okay cool. Nas in the song favor for a favor with featuring Scarface where they're talking about killing people as well.
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Talking about you know a favorite for a favor you got beef with somebody I'll kill him. I'll help you. I got beef.
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You can help me out. Okay, now says FIFO foes ready five mass five machetes attack. I'm like Freddy, then we toasted over spaghetti. Once again. Spaghetti I got one more there's this there's way more but I just have one more. And this one has doesn't have to do with crime but it has to do with the lavish life flaunting your money right and it's Puff Daddy and the song Benjamins all about the Benjamins baby. Okay. He goes live in the rod deal. three course meal spaghetti, fettuccine and feel like okay, I understand the first two because it's a crime mall bot and you know, the crime boss situation and you figure is the Italian lifestyle. They figure the Italians eat spaghetti. The way did he's using it here. I don't think fits. Because when I think of spaghetti, I'm not thinking about an expensive meal. Like anybody can buy and make spaghetti. You don't have to be rich to eat spaghetti. I could be broke. You know, I mean, buy a box of spaghetti. Throw that shit in some water. And that's it. You know what I mean? So right, I need to hear your take on this shit.
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I mean, I would say that it's probably just it's it's like the Ultimate Italian trope, isn't it? Right? It's not just like, it's it's the mob boss.
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That's, that's consuming pasta.
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It's also like, Lady in the tramp when they're at an Italian restaurant, the Italian music's playing and they're like sharing a long string of spaghetti.
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Right? It's it I think it's less about the food because you're like, to your point. It's, it's peasant food, basically, right?
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It's flour and water. And yes, anybody can eat it. But I think it's just more about kind of what what popular culture has shown us and every time we see an Italian you know, how many times did Tony Soprano sit down to spaghetti? How many times did we see that with? You know, any, like, name the Italian?
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And how, and how obsessed are those are all those guys with mafiosos? Right? I mean, you look at like, all of the shit from like the 90s and 2000s. Like NAS is like, you know, recreating casino like Goodfellas was referencing every hip hop album. And so it's like, I think it's like less about spaghetti. It's more just about like that, like kind of stereotypical Italian Mafia culture, whatever.
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Well, and, and also, Jeff, I will say, unlike French food, right, where you you know, you mentioned as cargo flog raw, there's like plenty of food that's really expensive and difficult to prepare. And, you know, like, my people's food for the most part. It's not it's it's pretty simple food. It's not that expensive. It's a lot of pig. It's a lot of tomatoes.
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It's a lot of wheat, you know, and so I don't know what they would pick to make it like lavish or something.
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But it's probably more of a corner hit like hip hop has glorified the hip hop has glorified the Italian mobsters you know, the mafia life and all it is you know what I mean? And I guess you know, spaghetti symbolizes that I guess I'm just trying to put the two together because I don't I don't see why rapping That's right. Talking about spaghetti.
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Alright, and spins dying laughing in the corner. We got to hear I don't know what it is.
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I'm sorry. I didn't realize how broke Diddy was until I heard that. It makes no sense. Spaghetti fettuccine anvil with spaghetti monster your main course. Pasta third would be
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starch and a little baby cow right yeah.
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Right don't make any sense because one of them the main but
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and like you're having to, to pasta dishes.
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Yeah to pasta. That's too many Diddy. And also just I mean, let's just be real did he can't rap so he just was throwing together any words that had an eye on the end? He's a guy. Yeah. Well, maybe
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he was accounting for his date.
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Um, what was it about fishing spaghetti?
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Yeah, well, yeah. It could be clam sauce because
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Income No, no. G specifically says fish and spaghetti in the video. They pan to it.
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Like fish and that's I mean, pretty delicious. can be difficult to be like brand Xeni and yeah, brands you know? Yeah, sorry. No, no, no,
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my ignorance is fine. I think that okay, it doesn't make sense.
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Well if it Yeah, it's not the advertising way to sell it.
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Really thank you for speaking up for Italians.
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The Italian Defamation League we'll see off our back.
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When I think about Fizz, the first lyric that comes to mind and it's almost an insult is not even putting fish in a high standard was Kanye in the song negros with Pat negros in Paris with Jay Z. Where he goes
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Yes, fellas in Paris, fellas, the people of color palettes in Paris gentleman and
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when it goes boss olhar ain't it ain't what did you say?
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Dasha Cray Aina J was she order fish fillet but that's an unsalted he's basically saying like the girl was like lower class the girl he's on a date with you know what I mean? Like, is that what you're ordering spitting
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out McDonald's fish fillet?
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You're like, don't you want that's our goal. So caviars. Have you
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guys have you guys been following the subway thing at all, where New York Times did a study where they took the the tuna from Subway, and they DNA tested it and there was no tuna found in the DNA of the tuna.
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That sort of subway serves. And suppose supposedly the deal with it is that once you cook the tuna, it takes all of the tuna DNA out of like, you can't tell that it's tuna. But it stills like, I don't know if you guys have had the subway tonight, it's like to think that it's not actually tuna fish. It's not that far of a stretch. I'm kind of like other kids.
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Let me get this straight.
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Once you cook it, it stops being tuna. So if I order the chicken, so it's no longer chicken once they go off the ship.
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Well, so think about like if you took some of your blood, and your blood has your DNA in it, right? So if you cook your blood, it doesn't anymore, because it's basically like it's cooked all of the like the individual markers out of it.
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That's the way that I understand is you denature the protein. I don't know fucking blood. Blood.
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There are chefs that have eaten their own blood. There was a chef that served his own blood to a bunch of people at a private dinner out of my house.
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No, no.
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Mikey. The second time we've mentioned cannibalism on
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our show. Oh, yeah, for sure. I asked you if you would eat me. I asked you if you would eat me and you said no. And I said fuck you. We're getting a divorce. I need
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what's the shit that some people eat after the woman has given birth was the shit inside what was the center? But sometimes that's because the holes Yeah. Why would you eat that?
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Mikey? Yeah, I mean, there was a story about that.
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Yeah, I had some friends.
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I used to work with them. And they she had a baby and they asked me to prepare the placenta. And so I prepared you know, some of it that we froze and some of them with the that we dehydrated and they put into capsules. And then the one that she ate that the night of I ate some of it and it was just fine.
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So what does that do? Give you like superpowers or something like what is that?
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Yes, you can fly you invisibility most of the COVID X man. Yeah.