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Thank you for tuning in to another episode of the culture Episode 61 this is your boy Jeff with my man at one oh homie. I'm good another day, life ain't a game. That's basically what ja Rule told Fat Joe after he smacked him in the vs paddle.
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But we got to get to that your shout out to our patrons. Shout out to the 36 chambers and the culture chat groups on Twitter.
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Yo, let's just let's just get right into it, man. I don't want to waste no time. Let's get right into this versus battle that took place
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a week ago call me buyers again. Go buy me bicycle.
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I mean, I know you had a rule. You knew I had Fat Joe coming in. But you know, I'm also a realist. I get on you because I feel like you're always biased and like, you know, you stick with whoever you say he was gonna go even if they get destroyed. I'm realistic. I was watching the shit I was texting. I'm like yeah, I was beating him out I don't know what what Joe was doing. You know, I'm saying we could run it down you know, round by round.
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Um, I'll give you my my final score was ultimately nine eight and three and it could have been those you know had an IRA winning nine rounds and Fat Joe win an A and then I had three times because there was a few rounds where I don't know what they was doing. And I wasn't filling none of the songs. Joe Rogan's extra points for like talking shit his his comedy he was hilarious. You know, I'm saying he was really being real funny and Fat Joe was being real disrespectful. Again, we'll get to it. So you know Joe rule. I can see Joe Rogan easily getting 11 1213 points in the route but I had at 983 because I had those three rounds that were tied for me. Let's get into that shit.
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I remember getting into the final score. Um, I know it was higher than that had to be
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at 12 Yeah,
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I think it was like 12 like 12 seven in one for the last one didn't count we did New York New York together.
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It was no but that wasn't when the show was over ready when they didn't New York New York together. No, no, no,
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the very last one was New York New York. The number the round 20 that was it.
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Definitely brought out jader and then jayda kiss came out and I saw somebody say like yo how j to kiss comes out and wins another version is three a nova versus e the vs veteran like he said every week like I don't think he lives in audio. Me person now I'm gonna have one j to track so you can bring him out just bring them out at the end.
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Let him kill him. And he was the best.
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Let's start let's start from the beginning. Alright, I'm gonna run from the top Yeah, you're gonna run up from the top we're gonna kind of off pretty 20 rounds before they did the New York but we'll get to it now you couldn't tell remember Joe will play like two songs and the same thing
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I hate when they do that bro. And then the problem is because you know you know my preferred rule is that most of his hits or love songs or you know females ladder which is cool, but I you know, I need diversity. You know, give me a lyrical song give me a street song. Give me an r&b song. Okay, cool female song but then give me a street you know, I mean, like, I need diversity. I thought I thought Joe had that.
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But I don't know what Joe was doing cuz he was playing songs.
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I was like, What the fuck is this? And then he tried to play john Roos game like he tried to be his own game like you're not going to beat your rule when it comes to like the lady songs you know I'm saying so just stay in your lane like you're not gonna play his female songs and fat Jones I got a female song toy or he got the song with Nelly which is trash. I'm like, I come on man. Then he tried to play big punk songs and john Rue got him to he was like, yo, that's not even your song. Get out of here.
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Like
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it's a super simple argument out of making people Oh, we can buy this. Joe was a veteran. He's one of most respected artisans game we've been around for a very long time. Joe has never held the crown ever ever. I said john how to pray like maybe two years in a row like when you're at the top of the game like Joe's been close but he's never been at the top like to have a hit single and that's it and other hit singles and that's it. But no cohesive like album or albums we like I'm going back to the ultimate replayability know, john has that like he has these hits and so on so forth. But like she was talking to talk I
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would argue that I would argue that Federals best songs are the ones where he has like Big Pun on him
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and that and even though still not the best part is not the best part of the song.
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No, no sir no feature that fat Joe's in that's another that's another big point against him. No feed enter that Fat Joe was in. He's the best. And you texted me that when he kept playing you know features even go ahead. Go ahead. What was the first method so surround around with Flo Jo versus john featuring DMX and Jay Z is murder. So Joe, Joe got that immediately. Yeah, soon as you pull out the DMX cheat card, you wouldn't around? So right away your roof on my card was up one night and right there. Go ahead.
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Yeah, that
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was easy. Oh, it wouldn't be too hard around the school like a cool guy. This one like, come on, man. We're really asking that question. I'm not gonna ask a question. You're gonna ask a question, but I'm definitely gonna ask the question. So we got that. Can we go ahead and go to round two?
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And it is like I said, going back to remake none of this round three. Sorry, round two was Fat Joe my lifestyle versus Can I get a with jar rule.
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You don't mean Like a boy and
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but if you say like you like you like my lifestyle shit that's just oh yeah, cuz I never seen the brick never seen the crack house like I didn't come on I saw that Oh you know what I hate about my lifestyle and then it came back with this and who don't who don't love can I get it? Alright so we got so Java to learn from it right, right okay, round three is the Ashoka remix versus jc jarle demyx a murder grant never big fan of murder grand No. Never big fan of murder and I had john I gave it right, but I gave it I gave it to Joe to this to one now here's the thing that's we're talking about compilations. We think it I shot your remix song. Who's the first person you think of?
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I don't think I don't think I even texted him. I don't even know. Is he on the song? I remember I texted you. I'm like, Is he on this
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world? If you play tennis with people, I'm thinking Oh, cool. J has a saucer. I'm thinking of lol I see a Foxy you know, man, right? Not thinking a joke, right? That's round three.
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round four is bego with Fat Joe the enemy versus Holla Holla gay that the jar rule two.
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Again, I texted you I was like, Yo, what is your rule?
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What is Joe doing bro? I was like, Okay, he's saving all his ammunition for the later rounds, I guess. Okay, go ahead.
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So round five. It was MLP featuring Ron Annie at remix and fat john big pine the deep covers it was a new cover he brought out Remy Remy killed because he did puns vs. vs. vs.
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Jackson and milyon between me and you?
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Yeah, I'm giving that to what you call it our data pun.
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Pun and joke right? And again, you don't have to have the best verse on the song but Remy came out and gave her thing. And that's my shit. And I and I gave that the job. That's fine. But deep covers the whole thing on track. I'm not giving given that round to a love song over deep cover you over twins. You're crazy.
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I'm I'm giving it I'm giving it to between you for two reasons. He plays Ania first, he's not even on the song. snot on the song is mo P and Remy Martin he's nowhere on the track. Then he does a song now I see I see.
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Another link that rule was getting he kept playing a lot of shit and I was like yo what is just not even your song and then he you know Fat Joe would be like Yo, I executive produced it. And Jarrod would be like yo don't count bro You ain't you ain't in the lab pressing the buttons. He might not
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if it's your album
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The album he did a couple songs like that we don't even know on the show he's talking about he executive produced the job was like yo Get out of here with that bro
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like give me between me and you like it's not even your song you playing the first one your first and the most memorable no one even remember what Joe even says yeah again that's when Joe's right and I got a full one. So round six is jarwin case living it up which I love that song but it wasn't been all the way up which is the all the way up as a Chico is it's an automatic so it's so for me it was 40 jobs at that point for me it was three three at that point right and now we're gonna run to this thing job was losing this anyway but here's his other part job was a he did down as pitch with Charlie Baltimore. Good song good. But Fat Joe does two things in a row he does. He does john blades saying to start with that two things in a row shit. And then he does still not a player again. He's not on the song is just pun. I'm saying what's your man over there? Your verses say that to the end. Like his whole thing. His
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whole gimmick was I'm gonna prove you know, I'm gonna basically remind people that I that I, you know, put pawn on and then I put me on. You know what I mean? That's basically you know, I don't know,
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I get it. I never expected though. But I'm like, this is your time to shine. And like I said, again, we go to john, please. Who's the most memorable verse on john, please?
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A big one. To me is Big Pun and then maybe Jade or NAS?
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I think Willie otter goes probably for me big fun data requires a nice, big Fat Joe.
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Yeah, Joe has every feature song that he's ever been in every entire career. He doesn't have he has the worst verse, every single song. I dare anybody. I dare anybody to hit us up. And let me know what song Fat Joe was featured in that he has the best version. There's nothing It doesn't exist.
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So So you got it work.
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So so that's so that's round seven. So it's four three Jaffe?
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Right. What do you got it?
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I had. Yeah, I think I had the same thing at that point.
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But But okay, so round eight is Fat Joe, because I had it much closer.
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I had it much closer to you. But I had job winning. I never had Joe up in any you know, I'm saying, right, because you're the king of ties. I had those three rounds that were trash to me. Yeah, he's like Tai Chi. Like, neither one. So, like so Fat Joe and Gz versus jar rule versus little mon Vito put it on me. That's when they came.
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I get the job when it's when the girls came out and yeah, Fat Joe loss where he just started talking shit. Alright Rita comes out and she's real skinny. You know, we were texting each other like damn, she needs to eat some, but
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I'm not saying she even I said that child hasn't had a car since 2016 um, she
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hasn't. She was she was like 85 miles soaking wet with 10 boots on and Fat Joe comes on and she's like, yo, john, you know, you know what crack house you got these girls out of like, you ain't feeding them and he's talking all this shit. I'm like, Damn, Joe. He took
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it. They're calling them dusty benches.
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The benches I came out of a crack like they need to eat.
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He said all types of shit. Which by the way, he later apologized he later he apologized and sent her like some get like flowers or shit. And then little mo like, posted it. And she you know, she was like, I accept the apology, Joe, whatever. You know, I'm saying whatever. But I don't know. Maybe he was drunk at some
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nappy when he went drunk. He had a little costume change later on so you're sober enough to do that shit. So so so I gave that as I get it wrong.
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There's a job that I posted that song to the five three for me.
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Yeah. Next round is Fat Joe and Diddy with Cartagena with javo versus Bobby Brown thug Levin.
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Fuck
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that Bobby brush. I gave that to Joe.
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I gave it to Joe begrudgingly. I love that dog lover. She that is the greatest.
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Bobby Bobby foo crackhead form like man he speaks tonight. He was like dancing. He saw his face with chocolate. Well, he was going through exorcism, but fresh off of struggle again. So So now so far for Josh. Until we get to round 10.
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Around 10 is pretty much where it ties up. Because Jarrod, please so much pain join him in pocket. That's nice.
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Yeah. But that's a funny song that he basically remixed. I don't write and and that's my favorite pox on too. But just, I wasn't really a fan of him trying to emulate power jumping on it. And what the Joe play.
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All I do is when I'm like, okay, that's a joke.
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Right? There was fun. Yeah, for me. Right. And exact same thing.
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It ties up right there. Right.
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And they do
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change, right. Yeah. Which again, is the weight loss points again, because Jarrod was like, yo, are you serious, but you need an intermission. He was like, Yeah, man. And he goes and it takes like half hour 45 minutes to come back and like an orange jumpsuit, or whatever he had. He came back into orange jumpsuit.
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Then he switched over then he do the next round like Jarrod does the crown with like he does he starts off with the crown, but actually does Ain't it funny with him in jail?
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Oh, yeah, he got he got to jail. Oh, then, you know, yeah, I forgot. I was like, there you go. So go ahead. And what did you
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find it then Joe does the new Shawn sunlight to write his new joints. So I like not, it's going right.
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In fact, the only thing I'm saying was like yesterday's hits are not today's hits job.
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Yesterday's money is not today's money. Like okay.
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That's great. But you should play yesterday's hit. You probably had that round. Joe ruined me. Yeah. So John's up there. Then they go to the very next round is Fred Fred Jones race. So excited against down for you gyro jarwin wins that too.
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Yeah. Yeah. I'm not feeling Yeah, maybe.
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So to that seven, five job. And that might have been one of the rounds. I gave it a tie. That was one of the record.
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I didn't like either one. So I was one of the ties I gave. I know the tie. Rafi so that's fine. I can see how somebody would just give that to jostle.
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Yeah. Right. Then the next one is like is he plays like the destiny outro from his Last Temptation album, and that's what job plays and Joe plays a song with him. I don't want to pass name on Well, a and cardi B. I'm good on call. Yes. I'm good. I like alright, I give it to you because that what if I keep playing the outro and even if you're playing the track, so I get that a tie as well as one of them ties. Right? So that's where I go seven six jobs that I get I want to Joe The next one is Fat Fat Joe with Chris Brown, another round against Mary J.
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Blige when jarbo rainy days nope jarbo got that Mary J cheat code don't argue it don't doesn't matter does not don't argue.
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Those rainy days to drag and drop like I cannot let Mary cook right so all I'm up at six. Then Fat Joe just did like say you wouldn't want on talking Tomasi.
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Joseph has been hardcore king of gangsters, everything else like that. Then it's taking place him and j holiday. I won't tell some soft shit. And because
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because he tried to play john Roos game and I'm like, you can't do can't play that play yourself and go play your temper squash it. And he got a lot of songs that I'm assuming he didn't play because they have Cuban link on them. And he probably didn't want to give people a little shine, which was a mistake, because there's a lot of Terror Squad songs that you know, I mean, there there was there were bankers, you know, and it's Joe and Cuban link or Joe pawn and link and you know, I'm assuming that's why he didn't play none of the songs that Cuban link is on because he doesn't want to, you know, bring any attention to him. I was Like, wow,
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they hope they hope beef is pennies. Fuck. Yeah. But they don't know why like, but
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yeah, there's some.
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There's a few songs that Fat Joe could have played that were better than some of the shit he played that half Cuban Lincoln.
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You know what I mean? Not saying he would have won, but it would have been a better round for him than some of these bullshit he played. And I was like, Oh, he's not gonna play none of them because they got Cuban Lincoln, but go ahead.
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Alright, so clap back again at the job. Fat Joe for Gianelli, get it poppin I'm gonna kick kick it off. And but but I did know I cry with Lumo that's one for job right?
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Again, I'm not even a big big fan of the songs that john Roos playing, but I just wasn't fucking with the shit Joe was playing at all. So by default, john gets those rounds for me as well.
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So so that was round.
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16 so I got 16 so right now I got 11 911 five I think limit five.
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Yeah, cuz I still have a job at five. Yeah, had like three ties. Right now. I still haven't like six five or seven five. Jah ruin and I had to tie a bunch of ties.
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Yeah, so so this is one where it gets tricky, but it Okay, so it's round. 17 is this they bring out Ashanti jarbo does mesmerize butter and Fat Joe does with love,
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and then he pulls her by his eyes My turn Come over here.
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And you know first of all, like we know you're married man, but you need to stop salivating. He was just salivating Was it me?
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Was it only Musa he was salivating over a shot. He was like, Damn, girl you smell good.
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Dan, you're looking good a shot to like I miss wipe off the drool. Like we know Ashanti is a baddest bitch in the game right now.
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She did look good though.
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She always bro she's always looking good. But Jarrod was just salivating over her.
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But anyway so they do the songs I in order to get around to
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I gave it I gave it to Joe just because I think it was a petty voice Yeah, because the whole thing is like because what's love has Basanti and john Roos on it? Right? Got to do got to do with it he's
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he's on the track. So if I go here, right I guess I'll get you might have some of that shit. Probably. So that was another thing that Jarrod kept throwing that at Joe he was like Yo bro Holy shit. Like all my songs I hope he should be
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in a hole and and round 18 was Fat Joe peach and Lil Wayne make it rain versus Ashanti and Jarrod was on time I give it over some time. Yeah, make it rain is great, but the beats most memorable part about the song not anything I don't I don't remember anything Joe Spitz on that no, that's round 18 round 19 you got Fat Joe and Remy while you get lean back so here's his number seven I'm gonna be it's going to be a jar rule and JLo I'm real so like not even please gonna beat lean back so I'll let that cook then fit round 2020 Did you know jaida and fat Jubilee Odin and the New York New York to that's why I scored yet well
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at that point. Yeah, so at that point, I will have one already so I guess I had 98298 and I had a much slower unit but
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no no yeah because it's like would that would that battle is a preference battle if Joe would have stayed to Joe shit. Joe would have been just fine. It would have been just fine. And I'm saying the same thing about a terrorist squad tracks and all other stuff so on and so forth. I get it but the truth of matter is this even if you got prompted those guys there are songs with just your lyrics on that or Terror Squad song you can just play that part. I knows probably other more fire verses on their fire from termination or whatever the fuck the guy's name was or Cuban or upon whatever.
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It was on a song with Putin and Cuban he automatically has the worst verse on a song because putting Cuban right we're gonna have the best verses on a song automatically.
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Exactly. I mean, to me, the best part of Joe's whole set was bringing out Remy everything that Remy did to me was the best shit.
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Yeah, the only thing we bring any other artists outshine you as far as the bosses, which is supposed to do so it's not an issue was just, I expect a little bit more but from what it what it is and what it was. It was good to those no complaints from me. I
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personally thought it was one of the more entertaining it might have been the most entertaining verses that I saw out of all of them so far to me.
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You know, they were cracking jokes against each other dissing each other back and forth. You know, I'm saying obviously, they hugged it out at the answers off the show, but I thought it was really entertaining. They brought people out. I mean, which is always one of the things you want to see like down when are they gonna bring this person out? And I was watching it, I think and my sister was like, Oh, the gyro bring out JLo I was like, Hell no, they don't got no money for JLo it was when she left. She left the hip hop game after she broke up with Joe Where did he? So speaking of Diddy, um, what's up what did he you know, you he came out and said that because people was like Yo, you should do a vs because he said he wants to do a vs with Dr. Dre. Right? And people were hitting him up like Yo, you should just do JD bro You should just go up against JD and then he was like, yo, Jermaine doesn't have enough hits to do a vs match. So then all the South you know, all the southern rappers took offense to that ti he responds Yeah,
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yo, stop, stop no t look, Tiago Shut the hell up because you haven't done that buses smoke for a minute now?
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Yeah, a minute. Like he also like you want to get in a state you want to call our 59 No, go ahead. Go ahead and give me a buzzer let's let's see if he can handle at first
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but it's always like the South versus New York like though the South always has you know reservations about New York or Africa that's like New York doesn't really give the South respect. But anyway, this is what did he said Did he did he said he responded to jD jD I guess posted something that he wanted to do versus and did he was like, beloved, you might N word but you're almost too short to box with God. You ain't got enough hits. I'll smash you with just Biggie and Mary, which I think might be a fact. No offense and no disrespect to JD he got a lot of songs with a little bow and the brat I don't think that's gonna be a mirage.
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And Mariah Mariah she will save them a little bit. But I don't think his catalogue he does have he i'm not i'm not disrespect to JDI he I know he has a catalogue is very extensive. But I just don't feel like it can go up against duties but it's great but I think this whole thing is done basically setting up a versus I feel like they're gonna do because you know train going to know versus man you don't got time for that. He dealing with the whole divorce situation he busy? I feel like they're setting up to do DD versus JD that's probably what we're going to get. So they got to spice it up and go back and back and forth with each other. This is what ti said though. He said Why do I feel New York and words most most of which I love look up to appreciate and respect they always feel like they so much above competition with their Atlanta Southern constituents 50 set he put a 50 cent duck me the same way
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that the other 15 are doing I should go ahead and
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make this your main job Angel purity tweeted somebody let did he know I'm at the garden right now and he gonna need some training for me. 50 somebody said no, the matchup makes no sense. stylistically, did he versus Jermaine Dupri was the one that made a lot of sense. Both have their hands in classic and iconic r&b Records and rap record. Okay. Because the question was, would y'all be here for DD and Dr. Dre battle?
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A DD versus Jermaine Dupri versus must be in the works for Rio because they're doing a lot of yapping tonight as with DJ he said that he had more hits than Jemaine he would have been put the Songwriters he would have been put in the Songwriters Hall of Fame over him and the other Shawn from NYC Ooh, that's a fact show by that he does not have more hits than Jemaine JD is in the Songwriters Hall of Fame did he is on somebody's college campus looking for his next victim? They're not the same.
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Buddy, did you send the song Don't worry for right wrongs. I write checks.
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Alright, so the question is, is it under estimate and JB?
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Does JT have enough hits to mess with it? No,
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I don't think so. No.
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Did it? It's like a round robin.
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Did he smokes? Jd but Dre smokes Diddy? period. I will argue with anybody about that. Dre smokes video? I think so easily. Yeah, easily. And people like no he can't like no no, no, no, no, no. See, I got a fucked up like, like if it didn't want to jump out with an r&b shit against Dre. There RB shits not gonna win. And like I said, and all Dre got to do is just be up on that stage and pull out the white boy, whatever they played.
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It's going to mean Yo, but I mean, I bet he is going to be when I'm sure Dre will play some r&b shit that we can't even remember that he
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produced like he did shift for what was that chicks name that had that song we rock him when rock him was under the label for a little bit true for truth hurts. He got some true personally that play. You know me, but
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he can move on. Let me blow your mind back when Stefan he did that.
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Oh, yeah, that's right.
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Oh, yeah, that's right. Yeah, that was him. And he vert her an ear. Yeah.
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He could do that. He could do some of your stuff. He could produce that he could be the person should have been with Kendrick you pull this up?
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should he do NWA with q with Snoop with game with 50 watts?
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am I leaving off the board? m&m?
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m&m. Sorry. How do we forget about the same unit? The game is everything she does extensive broke right and I understand that and I said Did he is what did he is But did he does this didn't stand a chance against him. And that is no offense to Diddy. It just you have to be real critical about the situation that you're looking at. You cannot put no you cannot put you know, your very best marriage and blogs record. Then all of a sudden he plays like some joint by 50 is dead and play some joined by Eminem is dead by game is dead. When you go with Dre, you you can't you can't dance it up. You can't you literally can't did eat up. You can't. Like I was listening to it yesterday. It's like Dre has so many different electric cars.
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They're probably gonna do somewhere large or whatever. I was like that like mega Even like one of my favorite beats of all time is phone tap. That's Dre easy. informtion got that too. Yo, it's no match.
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I'm listening to the radio and the TFC song came on and I was like, yo, TLC could do a vs with some obviously left is gone, but who could who could do with a TLC? versio just TLC got hits. I can see Aussie Yeah. I mean you can't I mean you could do can you do like a destiny shop? I was thinking the same thing but not with that right but actually probably above that'll just be Kelly and Michelle attending versus you know t boss and chili. It'd be Kelly Michelle and the other two chicks they kicked out and then it'll be tea Boston chili on the other side. Yeah, but that but but that they're going to lose the debt collector is a lot of
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rules, though. It'd
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be like okay, you can't play none of your Beyonce hits.
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They gotta be grouped in songs.
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Because otherwise there'll be a cheat code.
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But then I mean, that'd be the whole problem man like it there were no rules when I made this on anyone to make rules for this is like it's unfair. Like you can't tell me not not at all
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they're gonna play Beyonce hits Beyonce catalog by herself without the group or beat anything that anybody else can put up you know, I mean,
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but they got it but they got a lot of songs as Destiny's Child and whatever faction the formation of the group was that couldn't do right. But it would you know what it is it's hard to do it when you know that someone isn't like no longer in a group and they're like, the lives no longer here like like not hearing like tea vases wraps, you know, not to I sorry, left eyes wrapped hoof it, it just seemed weird. because she'd never think she would just know who the rapper left. Left. That
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was a dope rapper to me.
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You know how I feel about it?
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Sure.
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But it's the whole thing like not having heard there just seems so weird because it's like cheese that is three parts to it. I mean, TLC is no t bars, left die and chilies and it's in the name thing just leaving. Just you just TC. Like everybody Pentacles you know, Tz e panagos, etc. No. Exactly. So that's why it wouldn't be interesting. As a matter of fact, I was gonna bring to your attention just got nothing to do with the podcast, but since we're on the air, we can talk about it now. What I think is like December 8, I think I gotta check the thing because I saw it posted somewhere that they haven't Um, I think the figures that pretty much sold out to him in a concert at the Walmart in Montclair. Let him have geezer Raekwon and Ghostface. And we should check that out. I think it sold out. Yeah, it popped up like this. This shit property manager probably gone. No, but I'm against TLC. I don't you know, it's, I just can't think of a good group. I like TLC is beatable. They're beatable.
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They've got they got like, like two or three nukes that when they come out. Just got to just tell us you got to build some bullets against that. Like when you play waterfalls. Like don't don't play songs that like you're losing to that you play real life special. You're losing that What about your friends?
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You losing it that too? But it's like, but what do they have 20 hits though? I
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don't think so. No.
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I know and people hate that argument would have to go up against like three Oh, W awesome. Alright, so it turns you on a whole first thing like, like, what kind of? I don't think it's been wanting to Bobby and Keith like, what what male r&b combo? Would you want to see
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we keep talking about Usher. But who can go up to us?
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It has to be like either Beyonce or has to be Mary Jay. Yeah.
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Nobody else has a catalog. He can't go against Chris Brown. He can't go against omarion he can't go up against Neo.
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They keep insisting they keep saying Chris Brown.
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I'm like, yo, Chris has lab features. Like,
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I mean, it might be you remember, a sugar sugar like over 20 years of hits bro.
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It won't be it won't be close. I
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remember. Remember bump into us in high school bro. Like junior year in high school.
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That's 20 years ago. Started new relationship. She even got bachata songs with Romeo. You could throw whatever out there.
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I actually talked about pimp shit like 15 years old.
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want to do with my nigga flipping on cars and shit like
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thing and that's the thing a lot of those songs are produced by Jay D too. So you know Jay Z. Oh, Jay do throw some of those out Jay.
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Jamie Blake actually can do a verse 780s against did he's on Yeah. I need to borrow a couple of hits real quick by the cuz this dition here COVID gonna be rough. He got put that marry on I gotta come back. I pull out some confessions. I'm gonna need your bro. I'm gonna need you.
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But y'all before we go on a break. Let me just do the ghetto word of the week the winner word of the word is L i l l? And according to urban dictionary has multiple meanings. It means cool, tight.
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Sweet. Means dope. Raw fat pH fat Yo, that beat was so ill. Or it could mean being like sick like yo those two boys are ill with the flu but we don't use it like as being like a sickness.
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We use that shit as this dope like, it's sick. Meaning is dope. Like we like it.
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Like, you know, when I'm sick, I'm sick. I'm not ill right. I'm sick.
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like, Yo, this
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podcast is able to coach it is right. It's like, either I'm sick or I'm under the weather, but I'm not. Oh my god.
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I feel so ill Maybe a word you got like that note I'm sick. Why don't you say that? Why do you like cuz I feel like like you fly like see you get into that who's on first shit like not if you know what it is you know what it is we're doing that
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but you're worried right back I want to get into some of this Nicki Minaj controversy.
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They represent a culture to represent like, the culture podcast. It's gonna turn into a whole conversation about COVID but fucking Let's head this shit right now.
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Yo, let's get into this Nicki Minaj shit because she's been making headlines past week because first of all the Met Gala. The Met Gala just happened right? Yeah, and by the way, um, you mentioned a shanty, and you know she came out she's every time she shows up to an event she's like half naked. Looking crazy looking crazy beautiful right? So she's Nick Cannon comes out by the way. What was Nick Cannon wearing bro? He was he had like these little dreadlocks, right? He was wearing all types of he looked funny, but he got on a knee and he was like kissing Ashanti's hand now the rumor is you're trying to shoot his shot. Man you just had another set of twins but he got like eight kids now. I don't got time for you man. Go mess with your while and now girls and leave Ashanti
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alone. Anything that can be nobody's step mama not darling kids got eight kids.
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You got a bunch of pair of twins trying to shoot a shot with Ashanti But anyway,
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dog dog you know how hard it is for you to run the street for your kid imagine having a whole tribe and like trying to go through got a whole baseball team a kid's fan but didn't like to go on a family vacation like half a year salaries and and a trainer and assistant coaches waterboy and everything. The CS team is loaded. So anyway, so
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the Met Gala, who was a Simone Simone Biles came out and she had like a 90 pound dress.
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You saw that? It was like a 90 pound dress because it was like I don't know, it was made out of something and she was heavy as hell. I'm
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like, Yeah, what's up with these people? Just fine with as much as she did. Anyway, so
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people are asking Nicki Minaj watching and go to the Met Gala. And meganium Nicki Minaj like, well, because they was mandating that everybody be vaccinated in order to attend.
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You had to be vaccinated. Right.
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So then that's when the whole shift starts. Are you a vaccinated unvaccinated? And she's like, Well, you know, and she gave the example that what was it one of her cousin's baby daddies took the vaccine and now his testicles are, are enlarged or swollen or not or whatever.
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And people are like, well, maybe he has an STD. Have you thought about that?
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kind of thing was like she's like he took the vaccines and sesco swole then it was supposed to get married in a wedding was called off. Yeah.
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Because he's fucked up because he took the vaccine maybe it's not the vaccine.
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No, the wedding was called okay saddam fall on balls. Notice nigger, I hear ripping and running and got a STD. And it got shit to do a COVID. I got the vaccine, my balls not getting any bigger. I even check I just noticed the same jobs.
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So then I guess, Tucker Carlson, who was a white supremacist. He probably saw more he shared he you know, he shared the same sentiments as her about the vaccine. So she goes on and she shares a video of white supremacy theory endorser, Tucker Carlson. So she's getting all types of backlash over that. Right. Like, what was it last year? She was you know, what is it her brother as somebody who's like a pedophile or child molester sama went to jail. She was like supporting him.
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And and some Sheena jacket to her husband is going to jail because
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he failed to register As a sex offenders So, so so she she's associate herself right now with real suspect people.
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And then recently little NAS x comes out he revealed that he offered an invitation to Nicki Minaj to appear his new album in the Montero you know, album and he got no reply from her. So obviously she's getting negative press for that, too. He was like if she never responded to me, like it was you don't want to fuck with you, bro. You're too liberal for her. She's clearly clearly conservative.
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Maybe,
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maybe,
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maybe, probably not.
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But maybe I'll think she's conservative. I just think she just she's doing a lot of people are dealing with a lot of misinformation which is really really really fucking dangerous.
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Yeah,
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but she's over here supporting pedophile supporting racist because, you know, white supremacists, and she's doing this whole anti Vax campaign, which is fine, you're entitled to that. But you'd make an issue the whole thing and you know, is messing up her image.
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I don't know if it was you or somebody else told me this shit. And every time I think it is it makes me laugh.
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It might have heard that word. I think someone said like all of y'all who used to get your science papers test down on test day, all of a sudden, all your liver ologists cuz you know what you did school and like, like the teacher pass or the test if you did good, it was face up. If it was fucked, that'd be put a face down. Like you know the saying it is a bunch of people I hate trying to spew these facts about COVID were roast like that. The information is the information, what's there is what's there. I don't really enjoy the fact that people deal with disinformation. And I mean that really on both sides and are allowed to see, I don't like how in the press. I see I constantly see stories every day, every other day of someone being like, x person was a COVID denier, and now they die to COVID. That's one of those, to me is like one of those spitting on your grave kind of things, like the person died and just kind of leave that debt. And the way they're framing the story is like, no, they die to COVID therefore, you know, you should take the vaccine because look, he said COVID wasn't real. She said COVID was a real but they got COVID and they died. I don't like that narrative. That's just not cool with me. Because like I said, you're you're framing something where it's a public health crisis, you're making it political. And I think that's where the downside of voltage come with Nicki Minaj. Like I said, she's not enough in your everyday waking life. She's really not anyone important unless you're a barber, whatever it might be. But in reality, she does have influence she has influenced a coach to see if those people were styled her music, her mannerisms, whatever, she does have some sweat. And I always tell people that you feel a particular way about this virus or something else like that. Unless you have rock solid facts even she said, I'm still doing research. The fuck you me you don't work for the CDC, you need me doing research research what. And the thing is that when you do research, sometimes it becomes a little bit biased.
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Like I still I read articles on both sides of the fence. And my stance will be this and it will not change. I do not like the fact that they are mandating vaccines. I still believe that if anything, if you don't want to get the vaccine, the protocol should stay in place for everybody. Everyone vaccinated not to wear a mask. Everyone should stay the distance away from each other. So it lessens the spread, get tested the Yeah, get tested, do things of that nature. Just do that. They're not even like they're not even for that. If you can do that.
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I'm fine. But I'm not with anyone saying like no, the vaccine is bad or the vaccine is good. I'm just going with science science says that it works and they're showing the data points behind it. I bet if you're saying that it doesn't I need to show the data points behind it not someone that says that I heard from somebody who was a nurse at this place because I do it for a large my niece's sister is a nurse and her boyfriend second cousin is a janitor at the hospital and he salts them putting people who had COVID and putting like no no, I don't want to hear that.
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The facts give me number Give me something where it makes sense to me and like think that's a dangerous part about anything like that. I have my own very very personal feelings about it.
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But my whole thing is that I don't want to deny anybody their freedom or anybody that Liberty I still have a problem with New York big scene like you cannot come indoors unless you're vaccinated. That's what got the kick ass whipped outside of coal mines last week. Like the hostess is outside and I think these three girls from Texas that I guess visit in town they wanted to look inside and see like how comyns was she stopped and said We cannot let you in town lets you show me a vaccination card and they've started swinging order now the three girls got arrested but the whole thing is that it leads to situations like that like you're trying to place you're putting people at risk that have nothing to do with this that people who disagree with that will then attack said people so the whole thing that you got to be smart about it and Nikki just out not discounting shit and spouting shit about something else.
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Probably an STD should probably Shut the fuck up about because it I'm sorry, I know people who have had COVID I have never met anyone that I got had the vaccine actually shit you do too. I haven't heard anyone say I got the vaccine. My boss woulda never heard anyone say I got the vaccine and all of a sudden like my I got a little bit droopy or had splitting headaches.
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And what Biden where Biden is trying to do now he wants to mandate companies either require that, you know, employees have The vaccine or if they don't want to get it, that's cool, but you have to get tested weekly.
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You know, I mean, I don't know.
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I really hate to say this, they're gonna force you're gonna force on force everybody.
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And it's not gonna be Korean because right now, the test is free right now I wouldn't say you got to get tested weekly.
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It's on you, it's gonna cost you$150 a pop, watch how fast to get the shot. You're not giving the money you're not you're not giving up you're not giving up money. like you'd rather quit your job and if you quit your job, there's someone vaccinate that will take that job right away. easily. Like I said,
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you know was never you know what's coming to when you try to collect unemployment? And I'm like, what was the reason?
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You know how they asked you?
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What was the reason? Did you get fired? Did you leave? Oh, you left because of COVID you Yeah, you're not entitled to no money.
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And they already cut off the extra 300 you're not even getting in on top of that, you just you will be asked out.
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Like the sad is really really sad to say this, but they are going to force your hand. And unless you got a plan B or Plan C and I'm not saying get with the program if you can find some way to survive without a god bless you go ahead and do that.
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Follow those scams because there's nothing I'm gonna say on it. Because I'm like you I don't you know, I respect everybody's liberties and freedoms. And I'll admit, at first I wasn't taking it. The COVID as serious as I do now. I know people have died from it. You almost died from it. I know people that have gotten real sick from it and survived it. You know what I'm saying? That being said, obviously, I'm taking it more seriously now because I know people that have died from the shit. And I know when I've seen people that were sick as hell from the shit you know, I'm saying that couldn't breathe. I couldn't move they couldn't do shit. So at the end of the day, life ain't a game so they want you know treat it like it's a game then shit. Good luck to you. You know I'm saying
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Yeah, but you know, in a game you could pop in for more core to get another life. You only got one here. Yeah, yeah.
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You know, and like, I was reading about it early. Na said he had it. Now I said it knows he had it earlier this year. And I will try to explain to people that recover from it. Like I've talked to a few people about it, like people that know my story.
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And I try like no, give a little bit of wisdom. I said the physical thing is probably going to come back like your tastes your smell, your breathing your heart rate it'll all come back eventually. That's not what you got to worry about got to worry about like the toll that it takes mentally, like right? You got remember you like people don't like isolation like you like you're by yourself for two weeks. Alternatives maybe come into the door and dropping off food or something else like that. You go from maybe your bedroom to the bathroom and back. That's it. And no one can bother you nor can be near you can't touch anybody. And like to the After Effects is on the fourth like kind of getting through and surviving. It takes a massive psychological toll on people, even people with mild symptoms. Because after that, you develop a sense of paranoia.
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you wipe down everything you clean everything. I don't want to touch this, I don't want to bother with that I want to be near nobody you need to stay over here as you can't help it Your mind is now conditioned to this. That's the hardest part to break. I mean, like I said, it's been a year some change later, I still suffer from PSC regressive shit, trying to sleep and everything else like that is crazy. So for people to make a joke about it, of being just about it, especially with those that are like, you know, you know, they still believe that it's not really everything else.
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And that you're not talking about the people who lost family members or people who's like, they're never coming back. It's gonna be MPC and the holidays, the season that they got to deal with that every day for the rest of their lives. And people still like no, it's a joke. You're just saying that because it doesn't affect you. So people, you have your rights, you have your liberties, you should do whatever you need to do with it.
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Don't Don't attack people on both sides. If you're vaccinated, don't attack connect to unbox and vice versa. Don't let it be violent. Don't let it be confrontational. Just wear your mask, keep your distance we try to get through this. Just fucking this up, just do the basics. And maybe we can get through this. Hopefully by the year, God willing.
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And you know what we're not even talking about, which I think is the worst part of this whole shit is all the people that are dying from other, you know, illnesses or diseases or injuries that can't get medical treatment or can't get admitted to a hospital because the hospitals are all full with COVID patients with people that have COVID and they can't treat people that really need in I mean, that are dying from other shit.
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Yeah, send them out.
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Like I said, like I said when I was in the hospital because when you have COVID you know, like, like, even like you've been hospitalized before right? Yeah, that's you know, sometimes like you got one bed a little curtain in another bed. When it's COVID they can't share room if one person so now that also limits the people that they can put correct the shit in half. So if it's 50 rooms on the floor and you got 40 COVID patients only 10 of the rooms are available for cancer patients heart heart transplants, you know, diabetes, blood pressure, whatever illness cert surgery, whatever, whatever physical ailments or illnesses you might have. You can't properly treat it cuz they just don't have the room. You got to try somewhere else fucking looking for a fucking hotel, like no vacancy to trot hospital down the road. You got people with like all types of injuries, stab wounds, bullet wounds, whatever, and they can't get help. So they are here dying because they Oh, sorry, we don't know where to put you. We got all these cool motivation needed to go ahead and set up a tent called parliament. Don't like yeah we're gonna set up a tent the parking lot if you got shot pull up over here we're gonna take the bullet out outside Don't worry about it. Bill over there you got all you got little stomachache dogs outside. Oh Josh I will stay rentals guess yeah set up some tents and chairs and tables, everything Oh my the whole kit. Oh, nice. They get a free advertisement because they pay for this year I got here, but your favorite little shout out. But before I
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go I want to just do this on a sports note. I want to talk about the Steven Naismith and Max Kellerman fired from the show was the first take. I used to love Steven a. I used to listen to him on Radio One day, and then he started kissing me off and get on my nerves, because he's always talking about how these two I got my sources. My sources are telling me that LeBron James is coming to the Knicks never happens. My sources are telling me it's a 98% chance Kevin Duran and Kyrie Irving are coming to the Knicks it's a done deal. And then when the free agency happens them guys ain't even sit down with the Knicks. So I'm like I who are the sources that always misleading Steven a. And he keeps doing that every time he his sources he's always wrong.
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And he tries to talk about boxing doesn't know shit about it tries to talk about MMA tries to talk about baseball and I'm like, yo, Stephen A sounds like he don't know what the fuck he's talking about. Like, I respect a man because he's, he works.
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He's, he's on the air all day, every day on radio on TV, he's traveling, he does the NBA. Like I respect him for being a hustler. But at the same time, I lost a lot of respect for him for some of his antics. You know, I'm saying he just talks a lot so and I like Max Kellerman.
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So Max Kellerman used to do the boxing he used to have his own show and now he had a show with Steven a right next to you know, Steven they got him kicked out they they got it and then the rumor started like Yo, it was Steven a it was Steven Nate I got him kicked out of nowhere it just replaced them they're like yo so now they're doing like it's just even a by himself and every you know, and every episode you have like a rotating guests right to have different guests. So Steven a went on to breakfast club where Ebro in the morning and I'm not The Breakfast Club Ebro in the morning with a Ebro in what's his name, Peter, Peter, Rosenberg, whatever. And they asked him like, Yo, what's up with these rumors? And he actually admitted to I want to play the clip, if I can have him actually admitting that he got kelemen kicked off the show.
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like he'd
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go, Okay, here we go.
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seem like you and Max had a bad relationship at all. So where does though? Where did those rumors come from? And what's the truth with the departure of Max Kellerman from first day? Well, the room was accurate in terms of me wanting him off the show.
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Let's get that out of the way.
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Yes, I did. You know, we don't have a bad relationship. I think he's a real good guy. I appreciate what he did for the show. We were number one for five years. We stayed number one, and I appreciate that. But what a lot of people don't realize is that the work that goes into doing the show every single day, and morality is that we have 15 segments a day 75 segments a week, over 3000 takes a year. In the nine years that I've been on first take I've given over 33,000 takes. And what a lot of people don't realize is that not just the work that goes into that. But also the fact that is a chemistry that you have, and sometimes it just stalls. And the audience let you know that it is what it is, and you feel the need for something fresh, you feel the need to retool. And the reason why I'm unapologetic about my position is that number one is no knock against him personally, his professionalism, his work ethic, and all of that other stuff has talent. It's not like I wanted to gotta be fired or anything like that. I knew that they were landing spots for him available at this network that would generate just as much if not more revenue for him and all of that other stuff. And it wasn't really about asking him to be off the show. It was about the fact that I knew that we together was not a great partnership any
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time so I'm all for that.
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I don't know, man. I feel type of way about it. You tell me if I'm if I'm off base, or you know, I feel like Steven A is a bootlicker I feel like he's an Uncle Tom. Who and I feel like he has a big ego. You know, he figured like alright, I don't need Max Kellerman COMM And granted Max Kellerman is not going to take your spot. You're Steven Naismith. You know, I'm saying you're probably the most well known, you're the highest paid person on ESPN. I'm sure that probably by a lot. You know, I'm saying you're all over the place on the radio, you're on TV, you do the NBA, your you know, everybody knows who you are. He's on. He's on a telenovela. What's the name of the shit? a soap opera? All My Children on my life, my wife and kids. My general hospital you don't want to mention