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Erica Mena calls dancehall queen, Spice, a monkey. We dissect the cultural implications about the racial slur and the aftermath of the social backlash.

Episode Breakdown:

What's truly going on behind the scenes of celebrity relationships? Is black love being accurately reflected by these public figures? Unravel the complexities of Remy Ma and Papoose's relationship as we dissect the controversies and speculation surrounding them. We question whether Papoose's fame is due to his marriage to Remy, and if being a 'nice guy' makes him a 'stand-up guy'. Also, we emphasize the importance of refraining from making assumptions, especially when neither Remy nor Papoose have publicly addressed the rumors.

Dive into the dynamics of star-studded relationships, often viewed as flawless from the outside, but potentially riddled with issues behind closed doors. We discuss how this influences our perceptions, referencing high-profile examples like Oprah and her former partner. The conversation then shifts gears to the Super Bowl halftime show, talking about the reasons Taylor Swift and Lizzo turned down the gig, and the ripple effects of Usher being the host.

Lastly, brace yourself as we discuss the shocking arrest in the Tupac Shakur murder case, over two decades after the incident. Why did it take nearly 30 years to apprehend Southside Crip Keefe D? Could there be a connection between Tupac and Biggie's murder? The final section of our conversation revolves around the racial controversy on Reality TV, spurred by Erica Mena's racial slur. We debate the implications of racism, anger, and the power of words. Join us for a gripping and insightful discussion on these pressing topics.

Other topics discussed:
IS THAT RACIST
Joe Biden referring to LL Cool J as LL J Cool and calling him "boy'.
Keke Palmer shows Usher her ass
Jade Cargill signing with WWE
Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce
Kim Kardashian dating Odell Beckham Jr.

Referenced Links:
Who is Duane "Keffe D" Davis? What to know about the man indicted in Tupac Shakur's murder - CBS News

Erica Mena apologizes for racial slur after 'Love & Hip Hop' firing (pagesix.com)

Khloé Kardashian upset over Kim Kardashian, Odell Beckham Jr. romance (thenews.com.pk)

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Chapters

00:00 - Remy Ma and Papoose's Relationship Discussion

07:31 - Celebrity Relationships and Super Bowl Performer

16:33 - Usher Hosting the Super Bowl

25:48 - Arrest in Tupac Shakur Murder Case

33:39 - The Unsatisfactory Closure of Tupac's Murder

46:19 - Racism and Insults in Reality TV

51:43 - Discussion on Racism and Anger Issues

Transcript
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Yo, yo, yo, yo yo.

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Thank you for tuning in to another episode of the culture we live in direct.

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Is your boy Jeff Ant Tony was good fucking backers.

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But I'm right he was lifting shit, yeah, yeah.

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And the first swinge happened when I think I was in my sleep and like I jerked and well, someone sleep my paws.

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No, no, I didn't say it, I Fuck that.

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It is in my lower back, I think.

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Like I just kind of like it moved in my sleep and I felt like a little twinge and it got better.

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But now it's in the upper part of my back and it keeps like like sitting, like a little jolt since shit.

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So it's like it's here in there.

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But as long as I'm sitting up, I'm fine.

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So I got to sit up to do this show.

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So he felt the 20 twin twinge.

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I felt a twinge and I keep feeling the shit fucking.

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Fingers in my hand keep going numb like make sure I'm all right.

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But yeah, just a little pain outside I'm good.

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All right.

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Well, been a couple weeks, I was sick as hell.

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I was sick as a dog for like the past week, and then we had technical issues.

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Your laptop fucked up, my laptop fucked up.

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Everybody got like good laptop.

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Now we should be all right.

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Oh yeah, I got a new laptop.

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It's just crispy and fast.

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I got a new webcam.

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Look at crispy, out here you look an HD ish 1080p.

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That's some of my screen.

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I like nigga that glitter my face and that's the screen.

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Okay, I'm one of shit, I'm not bad, I'm sorry, it's all good man.

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Well let's get.

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Let's get into these topics.

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Man, I got a couple of.

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Is that racist Shit's to talk about with you?

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Sure, and.

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But first let me see what topic do I want to start off with today.

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I don't care.

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As you see, she didn't change.

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Do you think Remy cheated on Papus?

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Maybe, Because that's been going around.

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That's been going around for the last couple weeks now all over social media they talking about on the radio With the battle rapper Right and it's it all stands for some some shit.

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He said on the battle rap right and she's on the stage and you know she addressed this.

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She was like, yeah, it's all battle rap, he's just talking shit about a blind taking offense to it.

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Nobody wants to believe that anything can go wrong with Remy and Papus because you know they're the prototypical black love couple right.

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That's a terrible example They've been no, but they've been together forever.

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They got kids.

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He held her down when she was in jail.

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He she comes out of jail.

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He puts his career to the side to let you know, to let her cook.

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Did he?

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Yeah, for the most part.

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Come on, come on now.

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Like, did you really think like Papus, next man up, like let's be honest about this.

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No, but he's nice, is he not nice?

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He's nice, but his fame really came more from marrying her than it is from anything he's ever done.

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But I'm gonna do the alphabet shit.

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Great, All right, cool.

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It shows a level of creativity but it doesn't mean, like you, five fingers of death right, the pinkiest for this Right.

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You like you can do it, all right, great.

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But was anyone really like checking for, like oh man, can't wait for the next Papus album?

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No, his career kind of popped when he married her.

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Then the shit she went through and holding her down and so on, so forth, it was really more that anything else.

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It's not a Dismissal of his ability, he has ability.

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But even now, like, are you checking for Papus as a rapper or just no, imagine Remy's husband.

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I guess, but you sound like you don't give a fuck if she cheated on him or not, like, yeah, fuck it, she could do better than him.

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No, because it's more the sense when people say like, like, they're like the epitome of black love, like nah man, you love how you want to love and you shouldn't look for any kind of like In all honesty, any kind of celebrity, any kind of couple, to be an example of what your Things should be.

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I heard that a lot like like he held it down all the time in prison.

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So you mean to tell me this grown man who's a rapper, who has a strong professional career and his wife's in jail all the time Didn't do shit?

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Now one thing Honestly like yeah, he's a lawyer for all of those years.

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Can you honestly?

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say that he comes across as a stand-up guy.

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Right, it doesn't come across as a you know me, as a creep step.

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Yeah and stand up guys and stand up.

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Women get cheated on.

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They get.

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They lose relationships, they lose marriages.

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They said it.

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We play to like.

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They got family, they got kids, they got this, they got.

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It makes no difference when somebody went out, they go and get out and they wanted to be over.

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It's gonna be over.

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Now do I think this is over?

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No, because there's nothing that has been Sustainable that says that those two are, that Remy and easy are together.

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Nothing has said that, nothing.

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To come clear, neither one of them have said it.

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Now, if you're in a relationship, you will probably say something, or or Pat will say his marriage is over, or Remy would say her marriage is over.

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No one said shit.

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So it's just like for you know I want to say for the gram, but more for like Battle rapping, keeping people talking about things like, yeah, but do you think it's over?

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No, why?

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Cuz, like I said before, there's a prototypical black love couple.

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You know people talk about all.

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I want a relationship like Like J and Beyonce.

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And they used to say like will and Jada right, they don't say that anymore, okay, but then that next black couple up is is Papoose and Remy.

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That they're.

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You know, they're next on that list when people say I want to.

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You know, I want my relationship to be like them.

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I want my relationship to be.

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Together for 20 years.

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You know, a bad word has never been said about either one of them no scandals, nothing.

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Well, cuz she was going away for a while, so yeah, but you ain't here, none.

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I mean, this is this, the social media era, this is the?

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You know you ain't here, you ain't see.

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You know there was no footage of him walking in and out of a hotel with another female.

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There was, you know nothing, yeah, but you never see that it never happens.

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That shit always happens like in the end.

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In the end you always see like, oh, he's with so-and-so or she's with so-and-so, but doesn't really happen like we think it does.

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Because if they, if this is an issue or a real problem, somebody would say something or somebody would have known something.

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But I don't think it's that and, like I said, it's this whole idea of why do people choose people whose lives are nothing like theirs as a reflection of how their life or Relationship goals or values should be.

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Like like I don't know many rappers and I don't know many married rappers, and I definitely don't know many married rappers who might be having sex with battle rappers.

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I don't know many people who's like man, you know what, what's your like?

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Want to be like those.

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Like like why do we idolize the weirdest of shit?

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Like that doesn't make any sense to me.

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Like Like cuz even you name it, it was Will and Jay.

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Like now we let that one go.

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I'm like these like terrible, their terrible examples like the terrible example in hindsight, when you look, you know, from the outside.

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Looking in, though, all you see is they've been together for 20, 30 years.

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That's all you know.

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You know what I mean.

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Yeah when you see actor, when you see celebrities breaking up and divorce in every single day, the ones that've been together for so long are the ones that are gonna stand out.

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As you know, the it couple, the couple you know.

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They never break up, they never go through shit.

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Oh, no, even though when the cameras are off, they're going through a hell of a lot of shit.

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No, no, we pick and choose.

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We really, really pick and choose.

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We talked that will and jay to shit forever.

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What Denzel and marriage wife?

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For over 40 years Sam been married to his wife over 40 years they did, and in both, well, denzel wife used to be an actor, sam's wife is an actress, but they're stars and they're inspired.

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No one ever says, oh, I want to listen, like Denzel and his wife, or Sam and his wife.

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Oprah and her man was together for the longest.

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Oh.

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Oprah.

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Yeah, it was, and they tried.

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It didn't work Like it.

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Just sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't.

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Everyone wants to find like fault, blame or why did it did not work?

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Maybe it just had his time was past its course and that's it, not a whole thing of that.

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I think what you're saying to me was clicking in my mind is that I don't necessarily have a problem with whatever's going on in relationship.

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I think the issue I take a stand so on is the whole idea of like.

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Why do we find or Think of these weird ideals of black love as these things that are, like, naturally flawed, not like like?

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My ideal of black love is my friend Allen is because his mother and father have been married for over 40 years and they go through it and they argue and they have the little things, a little squabble, so and so forth, but they're still there in the end.

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I don't idolize it.

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I like, I admire, like that's a good thing to have, because I know this shit seems natural For people that you have zero ideal.

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The only time you ever see them is in front of a camera.

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Like that's not reflective.

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Any kind of relationship that anybody wants or anybody is like.

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That doesn't make sense to me.

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They're like oh, we want to be like, willing to.

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You only see that, see them together when they're at a premiere.

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You don't see him going to the store, you don't see him talking.

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And now when you do, you see like the fractures in a relationship, like what you try to like, get them on a like I take time to like they like you, just like you kind of burst off, like I don't, I don't want to do that, things like that.

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Now you kind of see the things that kind of go on behind closed, those that we always see like the perfect image of things, that kind of sucks.

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So this thing with people who are in rap like well, wraps a wild world all towards is I don't, but for me, do I think that she is?

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No, I don't, but I wish someone does a kind of like her to fuck up and say something so people stop talking about it.

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I All right, well, let's move on.

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Man Usher has been announced as the Superbowl performing a performer this year.

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Your thoughts on that?

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We've talked about how usher's catalog is extensive and nobody could probably see him in a versus battle.

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Besides, you know, he who shall not be named.

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Who we talking about.

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Oh yeah, no, we're not talking about that.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Yeah, yeah.

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He's not being.

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He's not being usher.

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Who?

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He who shall not be named.

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Yeah, incarcerated Rob.

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Incarcerated Rob, ain't gonna be usher, no fucking.

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Versus Feel different.

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Dog Okay, that's wild to say, but yeah, he can do it, not because not many people can beat him, but you saw, we digress.

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You saw Kiki Palmer at the usher concert.

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Yeah, that's damn, but as naked.

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Yeah, but it was a whole see-through outfit, her whole ass, cheeks was out and she goes on and she's on the stage for her with us.

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So she turned.

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You know, he's less there than her ass.

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And then soon after that I mean obviously she was probably having marital issues before that but soon after that we start finding out that her man beefing, and that's back and forth and and people are like, yeah, I'm usher, you breaking up relationships out here.

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He's like yo, I, mr, take your man, type shit, you know.

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Or take your girl.

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Is he?

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No, but it wasn't that it wasn't Like I think I might have been prom before then, sure, but I don't think it was a big issue.

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The truth of the matter is this that shit there was like he got petty because he's like you know oh wife should be calm doing whatever Naked.

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I'm the very one to call me why I said I wanted to break out hanging with usher.

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He sings I like naked but but being but ass naked don't necessarily mean mostly with usher, like okay, relax, all right.

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All right.

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What are the chances?

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I'm gonna ask you this give me percentage.

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What are the chances that usher hit that that night Is zero point zero, fuck out, get the fuck out of here.

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Zero point zero, get the fuck out of here.

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There's a semblance of a chance, bro zero point, zero, zero percent.

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I'm gonna go.

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I'm gonna go with there was like a 48 percent chance.

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You know that you'd say there's almost 50 50.

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It was zero percent chance.

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Because here's the thing like usher's known her for a while if he wanted to hit that he probably did that a long time ago.

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Like they're in the same circles and like if that would have happened that would have been happened.

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Like it would seem a little bit too convenient to do it now at this place at this time, with all these people watching and Him knowing that you fully whole-ass marriage.

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That would have been troublesome.

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You act like usher gives a fuck.

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He has to Because his image now he can play on it images all those want to, but that image got him to the Super Bowl and and the fuck that part that usher wasn't even the first choice.

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No, it was Taylor Swift and she said no.

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Then I should was the third choice because she's busy over there with Travis Kelsey in them.

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Right, she's a which, by the way.

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I'm already tired at that relationship.

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I'm ready, fucking disgusted from that relationship.

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They see her one time at the game and everybody goes crazy.

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Travis Kelsey Jersey sales go through the roof ticket sales for the fucking Kansas City Chiefs.

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Every game is sold out now because they think she's gonna be at every game and people want to see her and they want to breathe the same air.

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There's yo.

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What is she like?

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I already like a Michael Jackson level, wait wait, hold on, let's rewind a little bit.

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So you think you're sick of that.

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I'm sick of the whole shit.

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Like you know, you don't you turn on the football show and I want to hear about football.

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You're hearing about fucking Taylor Swift so they to the point where Fox acts Taylor Swift's people for permission to play her music during commercial, like when they go through the breaks, like we'll be right back folks, then an end, then an end.

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They asked them for permission to play Taylor Swift songs during Kansas City Chief games when they're coming in and out of breaks and they said no, there was like no, motherfuckers, you cannot use my music.

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So.

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She meets him.

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She shows up at the game.

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You're disgusted by it.

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I'm just disgusted by the coverage.

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I'm not this guy.

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She could date whoever she wants.

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We know she's gonna date and you know they're gonna be broken up by before the season's over.

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But I'm just disgusted by the whole coverage, like, all right, they're dating, cool, let's get.

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Let's get on with the game.

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They're showing her all over the place.

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After the game, they're showing them leaving together in a car.

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The whole thing is Taylor Swift.

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I get it, but you literally just said Kiki goes to usher show.

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They've had no kind of Background or anything else before that.

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You're already making the assumption that they're fucking.

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Don't say this kind of weird, like you're sick of one thing.

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When I stick at the other, like I didn't, I don't care about either.

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I don't understand.

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I don't either.

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Yeah, cuz like we're in a but one one.

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They're both annoying.

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One one was an actual story.

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Like I keep.

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He's going through his marital issues and now she's with usher showing her.

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I'm showing him her ass.

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The Taylor Swift shit is all about like they're injecting her into the football, like you know.

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I mean like she has.

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She's there at the game and she's dating in one of the teams players and everything is about her.

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Now, well, who says you?

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You said she's with usher.

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Anybody since you were usher?

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I'm not saying she's with usher, I'm saying the footage of her on stage with usher showing her, showing him her ass.

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The.

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Do you feel that women should dress a particular inappropriate man if they're married?

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Well, are you?

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Are you saying that women just should Taylor that dresses either man?

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I Don't mind my wife wearing dressing very provocatively if she's out with me.

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Okay, you know I'm saying, if you're out and you're not with me, then we might have to have a conversation.

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But okay, but but he like I'm guessing that her husband disapproved of the like the outfit.

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It's not like he didn't see the shit before she went.

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But that's why I said we got to assume that they would be.

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They've been beefing maybe right, but I don't want to assume about somebody's marriage.

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I don't like it sounds weird, whatever problem they got going on, whatever problem they got going on, like I said, and if he felt the particular way you know, you probably should have told it earlier.

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But I don't think that's the issue.

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But this is all kind of a roundabout thing.

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And going back to usher hosting the Super Bowl right, yeah, unpopular, what songs?

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are gonna play unpopular opinion.

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I don't know how good it's gonna be.

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I think it'll be good because, like I say, he has 20 years plus of hits, bro, like this, songs that I still hum in my head from like when I was in high school, of usher, from, like one of you know, from his first albums and shit.

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But again, it's a Super Bowl.

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What do what?

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They give you like 15 minutes, or is it less?

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Is it 10?

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15 20 minutes no no, it's less than that because it's supposed to be the length of a quarter.

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But then you gotta they talk a little bit, they do commercials.

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I think you only get like 10 minutes, 10 to 12 minutes and and then I'm sure he's not gonna do none of his slow stuff.

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Right?

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You figure he's gonna do the stuff that's gonna amp people up.

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He's gonna do oh, my god, he's gonna do, yeah, yeah, he'll probably bring out little John Then it, then it, you know, say he's gonna play that.

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You know he gonna play that but that's the only one I like.

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What of the dance shit that he does?

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What's the football one?

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That did you gotta fall in love again.

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Oh yeah, yeah, they gotta play that.

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They're gonna play that.

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They're definitely right there.

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But that's it.

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Like all his.

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All his shit that people love about him is like Singing in ballads, unless he's bringing Alicia Keys to do my boo some shit like that.

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So you want him to go up there and be like it's seven o'clock on the dot.

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I'm in my drop top, yeah yeah, yeah, believe me or not.

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Yeah, could it, could the?

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I was having a suggestion before the thing about Picking him there because, like I said, he was their third choice.

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Taylor Swift was one, lizzo was two.

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Then they turn to usher.

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They were going to do Lizzo, but we're all the fuck shit going on her.

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They was like nah, we can't have a good look.

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And that would have been worse because, I mean, unless you're a big fan of Lizzo like that, you're not really going to be knowing her music or her songs to that degree.

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Now why?

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Why would you?

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Why do you think Taylor Swift turned it down?

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Is it because they don't pay you?

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You think she's all about her money?

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Right, they like.

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So the thing is that you do a freak because you know you get a claim in popularity.

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Why do they do?

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The most popular artists in the world?

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No, but it right, right, but that's why it makes sense.

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That's why, cuz I was gonna ask, like yo, you know, if you look at historically, that's definitely the last few years.

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You know, the people that go up there are people that you know don't really have they they're historic or they have you know a long catalog, but they don't have like recent hits or recent success.

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Well, they haven't done something for a long time, right?

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Right, right.

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She's successful.

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Now she's the biggest artist in the world.

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I don't need to do this now.

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Usher was isn't, hasn't put out much.

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You know you're right for a while and I'm and I'm making millions of dollars, not hundreds of thousands, millions of dollars for selling out stadiums like this routine times a week, right?

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So I'm gonna these people are paying for something else and I'm gonna perform for them for free.

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Girl, fuck you now.

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They're gonna try again next year, they're gonna ask again next year, like I'm the biggest artist in the world and y'all are not going to pay me.

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So I'm basically doing a free concert.

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I don't do free concerts.

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You pay me.

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I think this is gonna.

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I think this is gonna open the door for sports teams.

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It's gonna be a new trend, because I saw Mark Cuban tweeting to To Taylor Swift saying, hey, why don't you dump Travis and come date one of the players on my team, you know, alluding to the, to the mavericks, I guess and obviously he was.

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He was probably joking.

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And then, you know, uh, and then trap, and then Travis replied he was like, hey, how about you sign me to attend a contract, right?

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So this might be a new marketing thing going forward where ownership of teams would try to, you know, influence or encourage players to date, whoever the big pop star is at the time, because it boosts your fucking ticket sales, your merchandise sales go up, all types of ad revenue and ratings go up.

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It's crazy.

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Yeah, but it won't work.

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Can you imagine seeing the commercials the the New York Knicks play this?

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Don't miss Kim Kardashian Dating.

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You know whoever the fuck, Julius Randall, she's gonna be front row at the next game.

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Get your tickets now.

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No, it doesn't make a difference, because she's dating Oda Beckham right now, and then no one gives a shit.

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Oh, she is yeah.

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Kim, exactly, I didn't even know that Kim.

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Kardashian is exactly.

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It doesn't get the fuck out of here.

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You got your little phone right there, fucking Google it.

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I did not know this shit right and they say that that whole little ID you had just goes to fucking toilet, cuz it doesn't matter.

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You know why?

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Cuz she's not the biggest fucking pop star in the world.

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She doesn't have means upon means of people following every fucking thing she does.

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Wow, she is holy shit, that's, that's what.

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That's her second football player, because she was with her.

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She was with Reggie Bush, and then his career went down to drain.

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Oh, del Beccom is already washed.

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He's already going downhill, so it don't matter for him All right, like I said that, that, that mark on the show playing shit like that doesn't matter, because she's the biggest pop star in the world.

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It only works with her Because Beyonce is off the market and I don't know who's left, but it only works with her period.

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You can try like when as the whole thing.

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If I'm Taylor Swift, why am I dating the six man on the Mavericks?

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Right like nah, I'm not cool that.

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No, that whole lead, a whole racial profile doesn't quite fit her bag.

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So I don't think that's gonna fly.

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But the whole thing I having somebody out there like that, it's hard to do cross marketing.

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Like I said, you just brought up Kim Kardashian.

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She didn't know the Beckham.

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I don't see people wearing, you know Kardashian, baltimore, jersey.

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No one cares, it's just her.

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She's Michael Jackson, right, right, you could get Prince, and Prince is awesome.

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You can get other people they're awesome too, but it's not Michael Jackson, she Michael Jackson.

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You want to do anything to be in that business and that's why that motherfucker's not doing a Super Bowl, because I'm not doing some shit.

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Well, you know, it's gonna pay me millions to do this.

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Like a couple nights a week.

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I think I'm gonna come up here and do all this show shit for y'all for free, to be our showpony and y'all give me nothing.

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I don't need them, or advertising.

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I don't like, like, they like.

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Okay.

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For example, I know that, yeah, that's today, shit, um, what the chiefs are playing the Jets?

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Hmm, they're gonna be playing at MetLife Stadium in New York, new Jersey, whatever.

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And I know personally that there have been people that are not football fans that are trying to buy tickets to that game to see if she's gonna be there.

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Seriously, I'm dead.

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I'm not kidding.

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They don't do a fuck about the game.

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They want to go there to see if she's gonna be sitting there in the box.

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You might might not be doing jack shit.

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It's going there to see that.

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That explains the power of her.

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Now, what I worry about with Usher could we go to kind of sweep back to this thing Is Usher does have star power.

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I don't think he has that degree of star power and he's in a weird, he's in a weird gap.

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He's popular to our generation, but not kids younger than us, right, and it might be popular, like to maybe your aunt, something like that, but not necessarily your mother's.

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It's like this weird window, like he doesn't fit at all because he's not that kind of entertainer.

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He's not Bruno Mars.

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People love Bruno Mars.

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Could I play the drums, the piano, who do all kind of shit?

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Right, he does everything.

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He could sing the little, the up temple ballast.

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He could sing the fun shit, so and so forth.

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What Usher is really like?

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Even though you're gonna have a hundred ten million people watching, it's really gonna be like 35 for this, gonna be in for the halftime show.

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Okay, that's like.

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That's like.

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It's literally like a demographic.

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It's people between the ages of I don't know 25 and 55, like that went there right there.

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That was with that man through his whole career.

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They're the ones that's going to be watching it.

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I think he's going to put on a good show.

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I don't know what he's going to do, because all of his songs that are popular are songs that are like slower and it's not the method for, and the ones that are poppy Besides.

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You know, uh, what's the joint?

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Um, besides, yeah, I don't like that shit with pitbull, I don't like this shit, whoever the fuck, I just it's just skipping my brain right now, but it's not that.

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So I'm trying to figure out what he's going to do.

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Like it's gonna come out, play the drums it's some other shit or play performers, new stuff, maybe, but we trying to come here to hear it hits.

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I'm hoping that he, well, he's going to do those.

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But oh, I think he might do some of the slow stuff, like maybe like a four-minute medley, like singing this song, a little bit of that, little bit of that little bit of that little bit, then lead into it to everybody satisfied.

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I just don't think it's going to work out too Well.

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I think the reason why they're doing it yet it's an extra great reason to understand the other two people dropped out.

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But I mean, he is performing great in Las Vegas.

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People, you're flying to Vegas to go see him perform.

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Oh, he has a residency right.

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Yeah, and they're having soup bowl this year in the new stadium, so I get it, but I hope he does well.

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I mean, in all honesty, I don't think it makes a difference to me, because I'm going to watch anyway, because it's usher.

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So I just want to know Do his usher shit more?

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than anything else.

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I mean, let's move on to some important shit, man, because this ain't a gossip fucking program.

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Right, we don't.

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We gossip at times, but we're not a gossip show.

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If this is what you're talking about, it's not a gossip thing, but I got you good wait.

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Well, I know what you're talking about Continue, cuz I know what you said me listen Good.

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My next topic is after 27 years Goddamn, near 30 years Somebody is finally arrested in the Tupac Shakur murder fucking case Southside Crip Keefe D, and this motherfucker's been going on for years, basically, you know, spilling the beans on shit.

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Yes, thank you.

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He's been.

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He's been incriminating himself for years.

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I've seen this man on Vlad TV Talk about I don't really want to talk about this, vlad, but yeah, it was a white Cadillac.

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Was you, you know?

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Was you the man that shot Vlad?

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I don't want to talk about this.

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Nah, I was sitting to the left, but it was my nephew who shot him and he had a Glock 9.

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But now I'm not talking about this, no more.

00:26:09.457 --> 00:26:15.575
So let's get this clear it was a white Cadillac Outside of the Tyson fight in Vegas.

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Yeah, like this.

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For years he's been doing interviews.

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He wrote a book.

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We say some shit.

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So you know, I don't know why it took so long to arrest him now.

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Maybe he thought he was safe, maybe he thought there was some type of statute of limitation.

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I don't really know where all the you know, I mean the legalities are, but the thing is they finally arrested him and I don't think he did it.

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Yeah.

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I mean gonna do some time.

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He's gonna do.

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He's gonna do some time.

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He's gonna do hella time.

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Anybody.

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Anybody can get it died.

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I can get in diet.

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No, but he's.

00:26:46.900 --> 00:26:51.718
He's gonna do time, though, and the problem is too, he's the only person that's still alive.

00:26:51.718 --> 00:26:57.156
Of all the suspects they've had for the last 30 years, he's the only person that's still alive.

00:26:57.156 --> 00:26:58.862
There's one more who?

00:26:59.951 --> 00:27:00.273
sugar.

00:27:02.111 --> 00:27:03.355
Nah, she was already in jail.

00:27:03.355 --> 00:27:04.219
He's gonna rot in jail.

00:27:04.219 --> 00:27:07.626
Yeah, but first of all he also got hit with a straight bullet.

00:27:07.626 --> 00:27:09.413
He's not, they know they're not looking at him as a suspect.

00:27:09.413 --> 00:27:10.275
No more right?

00:27:10.355 --> 00:27:15.795
Oh no, but those are the only two people who live, who know right, Right and she can go, say none.

00:27:16.871 --> 00:27:21.126
But key Fede is the uncle of the guy that got beat up on camera.

00:27:21.126 --> 00:27:31.603
Remember, they got the video footage and the lobby or whatever right, when you see you know Tupac and sugar death row and they're beating up the dude because the dude try to take two pox chain or whatever.

00:27:31.603 --> 00:27:38.334
So they go back and key Fede is the guy's uncle and Apparently you know he was in the car with him.

00:27:38.334 --> 00:27:39.717
It was three, four of them in the car.

00:27:39.717 --> 00:27:44.498
They pulled up, they found Tupac, shot him up on the red light and drove off.

00:27:47.150 --> 00:27:53.301
27 years Nobody seen nothing, nobody knew nothing, nobody was arrested.

00:27:53.301 --> 00:27:59.007
Okay, and they finally arrested man and you know pocket's gone and bringing him back.

00:27:59.007 --> 00:28:05.653
His mom is gone, so she's not even gonna, she's not even here to see any type of justice be made, you know, for her son.

00:28:05.653 --> 00:28:11.816
Like I said, everybody that's been involved, for the most part, besides sugar is dead, mm-hmm, the dollar.

00:28:11.816 --> 00:28:13.693
So it's like all right, is there?

00:28:13.693 --> 00:28:16.141
Do we finally get closure on this, on this situation?

00:28:16.141 --> 00:28:17.432
And we still don't even have any.

00:28:17.432 --> 00:28:19.657
We don't have anything about the biggie murder.

00:28:19.657 --> 00:28:29.242
Do we move on to that next, like are they gonna solve this shit so they finally arrest somebody in the Tupac murder 27 years later and we still don't have no, no suspects on the biggie.

00:28:31.691 --> 00:28:34.661
Well, the two park one is stupid and I think they're related to each other.

00:28:34.661 --> 00:28:38.059
Like this dude been snitching for years like it's, this ain't new.

00:28:38.059 --> 00:28:40.256
This, like this, is not a conversation.

00:28:40.256 --> 00:28:41.077
He's had it recently.

00:28:41.077 --> 00:28:44.569
He's been telling shit since 1998 fucking key Fede bro.

00:28:44.931 --> 00:28:47.219
I've seen him on Vlad and you know Vlad is the feds right.

00:28:48.511 --> 00:28:51.250
He's all you know, he key Fede, even talking about this shit for years.

00:28:51.250 --> 00:28:55.025
He's even saying I was in the car, but I was not the shooter, right?

00:28:55.025 --> 00:28:56.150
That's his stance, right?

00:28:56.150 --> 00:28:56.431
I never.

00:28:56.431 --> 00:28:57.473
He never say he wasn't there.

00:28:57.473 --> 00:28:59.259
He never said that to park didn't get shot.

00:28:59.259 --> 00:29:07.580
He said I was in the car, I Was not the shooter, I was in the passenger seat, driver side.

00:29:07.580 --> 00:29:09.672
They shot from the back, he said.

00:29:09.672 --> 00:29:11.398
He said baby land and whoever supposed to do it?

00:29:11.398 --> 00:29:12.281
They did it.

00:29:12.281 --> 00:29:12.943
Orlando.

00:29:12.963 --> 00:29:14.328
Brown, orlando, not Orlando.

00:29:14.348 --> 00:29:15.753
Brown, orlando, jordan or whatever fuck.

00:29:15.773 --> 00:29:17.480
His name was Orlando Anderson Anderson.

00:29:18.391 --> 00:29:19.194
They said he did it.

00:29:19.194 --> 00:29:21.256
He shot at him and the other dude.

00:29:21.256 --> 00:29:22.420
But they're both dead now.

00:29:22.420 --> 00:29:30.814
So he's right and, like I said, I don't know why I took him so long, when he'd been basically self-incriminating himself for years Like I was, but right what happened.

00:29:30.834 --> 00:29:34.843
But but but does he get arrested on co-conspirator charge?

00:29:34.843 --> 00:29:39.372
First of all, my second question is was there a statue limitation?

00:29:39.372 --> 00:29:44.909
Can 20 second you get arrested 27 years later have to say some shit?

00:29:45.431 --> 00:29:46.815
No, because, because the whole thing they want.

00:29:46.815 --> 00:29:58.813
They had to have found some what they feel was substantial evidence, like they went to his house, they raided his home, they took his hard drive, they did, they took a bunch of shit out of keep his house, so they found something that could.

00:29:58.813 --> 00:30:00.479
They could at least charge him with something.

00:30:00.479 --> 00:30:02.224
There's no such a limitation or shit like that.

00:30:02.224 --> 00:30:06.696
No, no, no, there's no such a limitation, because you never charge him in the first place.

00:30:07.405 --> 00:30:09.830
Right even though they're like it was never a charge.

00:30:09.830 --> 00:30:11.113
There was always a suspicion.

00:30:11.113 --> 00:30:13.878
That's like you know who said the fucking dude?

00:30:13.878 --> 00:30:23.530
It said it was a guy and I think it was Long Island wrecked something and he was married.

00:30:23.530 --> 00:30:26.198
We was like killing hookers and dumping them in whatever.

00:30:26.198 --> 00:30:30.085
Now, a lot of them just happened a long time ago I think a couple happened recently, whatever.

00:30:30.085 --> 00:30:35.357
But this is a, this is a connected one from 20 years ago to him, which they did eventually with DNA.

00:30:35.357 --> 00:30:40.130
They can now charge him with something because now this is the murder that happened, but therefore we never had any evidence.

00:30:40.130 --> 00:30:44.551
Now can do so, like so you can indict a ham sandwich, but you need some type of something.

00:30:44.551 --> 00:30:46.300
So someone said something.

00:30:46.300 --> 00:30:49.972
They raided his house, they found some other information and something ties one to the other.

00:30:49.972 --> 00:30:51.477
They ain't gonna be this the whole thing.

00:30:51.477 --> 00:30:58.098
I don't know if that man gonna serve not a minute of jail time, because even that's so like all right, this happened.

00:30:58.098 --> 00:31:00.547
Where's the gun, mmm?

00:31:01.747 --> 00:31:02.670
That shit is long gone.

00:31:03.031 --> 00:31:08.780
Yeah, like I said I was there and I said I told you I was there.

00:31:08.780 --> 00:31:09.825
I've been saying this shit for years.

00:31:09.825 --> 00:31:12.833
I've been telling y'all these two motherfuckers shot him.

00:31:12.833 --> 00:31:13.997
I've been saying that for years.

00:31:13.997 --> 00:31:15.990
They gonna be like where the gun?

00:31:15.990 --> 00:31:18.115
You got to ask the dead man, they don't want to shot him.

00:31:18.115 --> 00:31:18.846
I ain't got it.

00:31:18.846 --> 00:31:20.393
They had it and they gone.

00:31:20.634 --> 00:31:22.199
It's like I said there's only two people that know.

00:31:22.199 --> 00:31:25.390
He know and he been talking and sugar know and sugar ain't say shit.

00:31:25.390 --> 00:31:27.269
And I hate me.

00:31:27.269 --> 00:31:29.675
One thing, that what you gotta find solace in the fact that you know.

00:31:29.675 --> 00:31:35.657
You found an answer to this and like there was no quote-unquote just in the sense of someone going to jail over this.

00:31:35.657 --> 00:31:42.357
But, like I said, it's not, like it's a surprise, or the fucking been talking for years, not a couple days ago.

00:31:42.357 --> 00:31:45.634
He been, he been yapping, the Vlad, he be flapping, anybody.

00:31:45.634 --> 00:31:49.326
We hear him like yo, I was there, I was there, I was there, was it?

00:31:49.326 --> 00:31:50.691
I was it, did you go?

00:31:50.691 --> 00:31:52.596
I went, hmm, and I was in the car.

00:31:52.596 --> 00:31:56.694
And the thing is that every time he saw that story he's never wavered from it.

00:31:56.694 --> 00:31:58.077
It's been consistent.

00:31:58.077 --> 00:32:00.412
I was in that car, I was in the passenger seat.

00:32:00.412 --> 00:32:01.273
They shot out the back.

00:32:01.273 --> 00:32:01.935
They killed pop.

00:32:02.986 --> 00:32:05.192
So why was it taken to this point to now arrest them?

00:32:05.192 --> 00:32:08.108
I have no idea, but it's one of weird things.

00:32:08.108 --> 00:32:10.054
It's sad, though I know they're gonna try to.

00:32:10.054 --> 00:32:13.109
I know the next thing about well, get over to this biggie thing.

00:32:13.109 --> 00:32:16.140
I think that might be a little bit deeper than what the shit is.

00:32:16.140 --> 00:32:21.288
So I Don't know if you ever catch that killer, but they are been.

00:32:21.288 --> 00:32:22.211
Who knew Pac killer was?

00:32:22.211 --> 00:32:22.854
That's a crazy part.

00:32:22.854 --> 00:32:23.516
The shit ain't nothing new.

00:32:24.807 --> 00:32:26.272
So do we have finally have closure.

00:32:27.566 --> 00:32:34.076
I Think that you had closure the moment that his mother died, because I was the only person that needed it.

00:32:34.076 --> 00:32:51.277
She was the only person needed it like as people who are fans of hip-hop and songs, for like that it's not one of things I ever really worried myself with, in all honesty, because there's a level and the idea of like not snitching so eat like.

00:32:51.277 --> 00:33:02.666
The thing is that even if someone knows, they don't say, even though it can bring solace if someone's family and bring them peace or whatever, they're not no one to do it because they feel that if this person was evolved, some free shit, there's a cold.

00:33:02.666 --> 00:33:05.586
You live by one of them that you don't talk about Treats, shit.

00:33:05.586 --> 00:33:06.832
That happened, all right, I get it.

00:33:06.832 --> 00:33:07.555
I get it.

00:33:07.555 --> 00:33:10.164
And the thing is that two-pack passes away.

00:33:10.164 --> 00:33:12.348
His mother passes away.

00:33:12.348 --> 00:33:18.859
Those are only two people that she was the only person that really really needed that answer to find peace with it.

00:33:18.859 --> 00:33:21.132
Once she's gone, there's no one else.

00:33:21.132 --> 00:33:23.681
That's like they don't owe it to the community.

00:33:23.681 --> 00:33:25.128
They don't owe it to hip-hop.

00:33:25.128 --> 00:33:27.836
They don't owe it to none of the shit like that, not at all.

00:33:27.836 --> 00:33:32.202
They don't owe them shit like he was a recording artist who touched the lives of people?

00:33:32.443 --> 00:33:34.689
Yes, do we need an answer for his murder?

00:33:34.689 --> 00:33:35.631
Probably.

00:33:35.631 --> 00:33:36.732
Is it a necessity?

00:33:36.732 --> 00:33:38.256
No, it's not.

00:33:38.256 --> 00:33:46.866
We think that it is Like we would have put out so many different fucking shows and documentaries who kill pop, who killed biggie, so and so forth and no one Kicks.

00:33:46.866 --> 00:33:47.411
You know why?

00:33:47.411 --> 00:33:49.303
I could have keep making the fucking shows and then they get an answer.

00:33:49.303 --> 00:33:51.570
Until now, you know, even now, the answers unsatisfactory.

00:33:51.570 --> 00:33:53.256
The people who did it are dead.

00:33:53.256 --> 00:33:54.528
Then what do you do?

00:33:55.151 --> 00:33:58.009
Right, You're not gonna be satisfied, I think.

00:33:58.009 --> 00:34:05.315
I think people are, because for years you know we was we were listening to the conspiracies like oh, it was sugar who did?

00:34:05.315 --> 00:34:06.116
Oh, it was diddy.

00:34:06.116 --> 00:34:07.179
Diddy paid somebody.

00:34:07.179 --> 00:34:07.840
It was that, you know.

00:34:07.840 --> 00:34:10.764
I mean, oh, two pugs, not really dead, you know he's in Cuba somewhere.

00:34:10.804 --> 00:34:23.992
So we used to always, you know, joke around with all these no Conspiracies, you were serious, I know right no, but these, these are the things that we would talk about, these are the things that we Would hear all the time, all the rumors like, oh shit, he's really not dead, or oh he, you know it was sugar or it was there, you know.

00:34:23.992 --> 00:34:34.652
So just to Just to hear that it's just, it's just as simple as this like they jump this guy, he won a retaliation, got in his car with his Crip boys or whatever, and they shot him.

00:34:34.652 --> 00:34:45.032
You know, I'm saying it's simple, it makes sense, but it's not satisfying, right like to, you know, to the media and to the magazines and to the blogs.

00:34:45.032 --> 00:34:49.373
You know, until the conspiracy theories is not, is not fun, it's quote-of-speak.

00:34:50.079 --> 00:34:55.777
You know I'm saying it seems like it's not fun, but it's such a simple, absolute truth, right?

00:34:55.777 --> 00:34:57.648
Something happened then.

00:34:57.648 --> 00:35:00.893
Something happened to a man that man wouldn't got some people.

00:35:00.893 --> 00:35:03.579
Those people shot the other man that did something to him.

00:35:03.579 --> 00:35:06.351
So it happens, all right.

00:35:06.351 --> 00:35:11.635
It just doesn't sound as entertaining as all the conspiracies made it seem before all of this whole.

00:35:11.695 --> 00:35:13.179
He faked his F to go to Cuba.

00:35:13.179 --> 00:35:15.925
Oh, sugar has something to do with it, so and so forth.

00:35:15.925 --> 00:35:19.773
I'm not even gonna laugh at anybody to make it seem like they're just dumb.

00:35:19.773 --> 00:35:21.777
I'm not, I don't have the patience for that.

00:35:21.777 --> 00:35:25.588
But it's more in a sense, like why do y'all do this to yourself?

00:35:25.588 --> 00:35:26.429
Like this has nothing.

00:35:26.429 --> 00:35:30.478
Like like why do you make so much entertaining shit over someone's grief?

00:35:30.478 --> 00:35:35.644
Like Like the whole thing was big, like you know, like it was, like big was gonna leave bad boys.

00:35:35.644 --> 00:35:37.188
So you know puff had it.

00:35:37.188 --> 00:35:38.231
Like why?

00:35:38.231 --> 00:35:39.516
Why do you need to go to these extremes?

00:35:39.516 --> 00:35:44.342
Like and this in this nation, in this culture, in this world, in this country?

00:35:44.342 --> 00:35:44.945
Let's start there.

00:35:45.867 --> 00:35:51.518
Vonic things happen all the time and it's not even to the degree that we actually think about it as it is.

00:35:51.518 --> 00:35:53.088
It's sensationalized.

00:35:53.088 --> 00:35:55.032
It happens a lot, a lot more than people want.

00:35:55.032 --> 00:35:57.057
It's reported, a lot more than we show in the news.

00:35:57.057 --> 00:35:59.612
But you know it ain't like we're in Israel.

00:35:59.612 --> 00:36:03.940
It ain't like we're in like some war torn country where they dropping bombs left and right.

00:36:03.940 --> 00:36:05.992
Like can't walk through the fucking store Because you never know.

00:36:05.992 --> 00:36:07.144
Like that's gonna be your last day.

00:36:07.144 --> 00:36:08.791
You still walk out of your house with peace.

00:36:08.791 --> 00:36:10.418
You still walk to the store.

00:36:10.418 --> 00:36:12.085
You walk miles away, totally fine.

00:36:12.085 --> 00:36:14.293
You don't live in a fear of something.

00:36:14.293 --> 00:36:17.385
It's almost like we need to create it to find like work to some shit like that.

00:36:17.385 --> 00:36:24.429
Yeah, always find the whole theories about them dying with some other you know Conspiracy theorists, is some other shit going on?

00:36:24.429 --> 00:36:25.070
Blah, blah, blah.

00:36:25.070 --> 00:36:28.478
Like a lot of niggas like to pot the nigga that played to pocket.

00:36:28.478 --> 00:36:31.896
The movie looked exactly like to pop but it wasn't to like that the fuck.

00:36:32.465 --> 00:36:38.699
Like like oh, now, so the dude isn't a car with a two-pot, double and in a real to pop was already gone to Cuba.

00:36:40.228 --> 00:36:57.751
Exactly the thing is, I think, the human mind, when we people, when we put people in high regard, the two-pot, a biggie Whoever your favorite athlete is, kobe Bryant, you know, I mean when these people die, and it's like oh my god, because we worship these people right, unrightfully so, but we worship these people.

00:36:57.751 --> 00:37:00.128
We had them in a pedestal, they're almost like gods to us.

00:37:00.128 --> 00:37:04.804
And then, when something happens to them, we're like holy shit, can't be just this simple, like he just died.

00:37:04.804 --> 00:37:09.556
No, it must be a conspiracy behind it, it must be this and that it must be evil forces behind it.

00:37:09.556 --> 00:37:10.157
You know what I'm saying?

00:37:10.157 --> 00:37:14.293
Like no, he's human, we're all fucking human, we're all gonna die.

00:37:14.293 --> 00:37:20.251
It sounds cold as shit, but we shouldn't make a conspiracy of everything.

00:37:20.251 --> 00:37:25.929
I feel like and I'm guilty of it too, because in my younger years everything to me was a conspiracy they're like oh nah, this is a conspiracy.

00:37:25.929 --> 00:37:29.077
You know, as you get older, you start thinking more level-headed.

00:37:29.077 --> 00:37:29.597
You're like nah.

00:37:30.547 --> 00:37:32.117
It's the exaggeration of the human condition.

00:37:32.117 --> 00:37:33.505
That's all it is when it comes to leverage.

00:37:33.505 --> 00:37:40.331
It's like if a good friend of yours passes out of the like, out of the blue, you're like no, no, no, no, no.

00:37:40.331 --> 00:37:41.213
That can't be true.

00:37:41.655 --> 00:37:44.724
Yeah your mind is clicked like no, that's impossible.

00:37:44.724 --> 00:37:47.474
I literally just saw X person two days ago.

00:37:47.474 --> 00:37:49.507
Now I'm never gonna see them again.

00:37:49.507 --> 00:37:52.014
Your mind it just won't compute.

00:37:52.014 --> 00:38:04.318
You're trying to it, eventually it gets there, but your mind it can't Cycle at that moment that all of a sudden, now this person's gone Eventually it does, because you have the service, you find out what's going on.

00:38:04.318 --> 00:38:08.184
Those things come together and you create and you find closure.

00:38:08.184 --> 00:38:14.157
I think the thing with two pox, that is like that lack of closure because, like I said, it was so sudden.

00:38:14.157 --> 00:38:17.952
Remember him, him and two pop.

00:38:17.952 --> 00:38:20.438
I'm in my early 40s and how do you now?

00:38:21.344 --> 00:38:21.806
39.

00:38:21.806 --> 00:38:24.306
I'll be 40 in November correct.

00:38:24.306 --> 00:38:26.771
You outlaw both of them.

00:38:26.771 --> 00:38:29.911
Damn, that's crazy.

00:38:29.911 --> 00:38:31.132
They both died in the.

00:38:31.132 --> 00:38:32.094
They died in the 20s.

00:38:32.456 --> 00:38:34.827
They didn't make it to 30, me, the one of them.

00:38:34.827 --> 00:38:36.914
They did not make it to 30.

00:38:36.914 --> 00:38:46.648
So Imagine that happens and that and this happens to you not you, but the death of those gentlemen have you at a freely young age.

00:38:46.648 --> 00:38:56.376
That sticks with you because you're a big fan of the music, you're growing up with them, you're a huge fan of everything that they do, their performance, their tracks, that everything.

00:38:56.376 --> 00:39:03.257
And all of a sudden, out the blue, just like with a regular person, your mind is can't compete, like there's no way they can be gone.

00:39:03.257 --> 00:39:11.514
There has to be some other reason of why this happened, not coming down to the, as you said, the very truthful and simple fact people die.

00:39:11.514 --> 00:39:12.416
We're supposed to.

00:39:12.416 --> 00:39:13.398
That's the whole point.

00:39:13.398 --> 00:39:19.409
We live, our bodies decay, we get older, we die this thing with two pot.

00:39:20.030 --> 00:39:24.771
When I heard the story, people like talking about it and I like I honestly don't care because I've heard the story.

00:39:24.771 --> 00:39:38.434
That man been yapping about this shit For more than a decade now and, like I said, and like I said in the show, the moment that his mother Passed away, that was the only person that needed an answer outside of that.

00:39:38.434 --> 00:39:40.338
No one else needed it or deserved it.

00:39:40.338 --> 00:39:41.829
She needed that more.

00:39:41.829 --> 00:39:47.670
Anything else like who did this to my son and moment she didn't get that, they didn't oh shit, us, anybody else.

00:39:47.670 --> 00:39:50.117
Am I glad that this came about?

00:39:50.117 --> 00:39:54.614
Maybe cuz I kind of sorted, but I don't know where this shit is going.

00:39:54.614 --> 00:39:57.690
Like you undid it, I'm like what is he going to say in the sand?

00:39:57.690 --> 00:39:59.356
It's gonna be shocking or sensational.

00:39:59.356 --> 00:40:01.650
You'll be telling the same story been telling for a decade.

00:40:01.650 --> 00:40:02.713
Yeah, I was there.

00:40:02.713 --> 00:40:04.706
They shot him, nothing else.

00:40:05.108 --> 00:40:06.711
I think we pretty much know everything there is to it.

00:40:06.711 --> 00:40:08.896
There's movies of documentaries, is books about it.

00:40:10.067 --> 00:40:12.985
There's nothing more than you can say, like you're literally beating a dead horse.

00:40:12.985 --> 00:40:15.650
What more can you say I do about this?

00:40:15.650 --> 00:40:24.007
And the fact that like hip-hop is in such a fucked up state like this is still like a major story 27 years later.

00:40:24.489 --> 00:40:24.670
Mm-hmm.

00:40:25.425 --> 00:40:28.976
Like no idea the fuck about all these new kids and not do anything that's worth you.

00:40:28.976 --> 00:40:32.251
Wow, it's just this like we still want to answer to this.

00:40:32.251 --> 00:40:33.996
All right, so now you got to answer this, sorry.

00:40:33.996 --> 00:40:37.764
Yeah, that's a question, they got answer and I don't know the answer to that.

00:40:38.567 --> 00:40:38.807
All right.

00:40:38.807 --> 00:40:41.775
Well, I want to end the show with an.

00:40:41.775 --> 00:40:47.949
Is that racist Segment I actually have to you?

00:40:47.949 --> 00:40:49.664
Let me know if they're ready, which one you want first, man.

00:40:51.806 --> 00:40:52.527
I must have choice.

00:40:53.126 --> 00:40:56.329
All right, let's start with good old uncle Joe Biden.

00:40:56.329 --> 00:41:03.820
I he recently called LL J cool, not to be confused with LL cool J.

00:41:03.820 --> 00:41:11.429
Right, he called them LL J cool and then called him boy and it's been a big, a lot of backlash.

00:41:11.429 --> 00:41:19.505
You know I'm saying about the use of the word boy when you're referring to, you know, a black man or an African-American.

00:41:20.811 --> 00:41:21.715
And keep going.

00:41:21.715 --> 00:41:22.277
But hold that point.

00:41:22.277 --> 00:41:22.998
Okay, but keep going.

00:41:23.561 --> 00:41:35.436
No, that is the point, because I was gonna ask you as as an uncle Joe Biden supporter Do you believe that's racist when you're referring to a black?

00:41:35.436 --> 00:41:36.478
If I call you what up boy?

00:41:36.478 --> 00:41:40.297
You know I'm saying, is it the way you say it?

00:41:40.297 --> 00:41:41.442
Is it the word itself?

00:41:41.442 --> 00:41:45.338
Like that boy, that boy over there, is a good rapper.

00:41:45.338 --> 00:41:46.802
That boy is he's good boy.

00:41:46.802 --> 00:41:47.873
You know me like.

00:41:47.873 --> 00:41:49.661
Is it the way you say it?

00:41:49.661 --> 00:41:50.684
Is it who says it?

00:41:50.684 --> 00:41:51.730
Is it how you say it?

00:41:53.576 --> 00:41:54.960
Okay so is it racist?

00:41:54.960 --> 00:41:59.235
Is the word not racist?

00:41:59.235 --> 00:42:02.952
Or is it Joe saying it's LL cool, j not racist, joe saying it L cool?

00:42:02.972 --> 00:42:04.697
J is not okay, cuz cuz.

00:42:04.697 --> 00:42:07.416
Joe didn't say the L cool J, he said LJ cool.

00:42:07.416 --> 00:42:17.670
So that's why, right, he wasn't saying it LL cool J, he said it LL J cool.

00:42:17.831 --> 00:42:21.695
He wasn't saying it a James Todd Smith right, he was James Smith, todd.

00:42:24.090 --> 00:42:26.257
He see, now he keep having these fucking senior moments.

00:42:26.257 --> 00:42:40.402
It's not that he's not racist, joe don't know, no, but he's getting old, and when you get old Because when you're old you can still be smart, but your, your brain slips a little bit like little details, like that, you're not gonna catch them, it's just not gonna happen.

00:42:40.402 --> 00:42:41.347
So do I think it's racist?

00:42:41.347 --> 00:42:41.648
Fuck.

00:42:41.648 --> 00:42:50.563
Now I just think I think he's having, like he's been having Having slip ups honestly for the past few years, like a bunch of fucking senior moments, like a lot of them.

00:42:50.563 --> 00:42:52.898
Trump has seen your moments, right.

00:42:52.898 --> 00:42:55.070
The thing that he repeats the same thing over and over again.

00:42:55.070 --> 00:42:56.603
You know he's having a senior moment.

00:42:56.603 --> 00:42:58.231
He just sticks to the same, he's he's.

00:42:58.251 --> 00:43:01.681
That's a strategy when you repeat something, people eventually take that as fact.

00:43:01.681 --> 00:43:13.594
Right and also and all and also the right and the left isn't, as you know, adiment, as the right is, when they're attacking you, right, like a situation like this, biden does a little slip up, they're gonna hold on to that.

00:43:13.594 --> 00:43:15.514
So the right wing grabs that right away.

00:43:15.514 --> 00:43:18.025
He's like look, you see, he's an old, racist, senile.

00:43:18.025 --> 00:43:24.159
You know, fucking old man, whatever Trump has a slip up and it's like okay, his followers is like no, it's fact.

00:43:24.159 --> 00:43:35.675
And then you know, eventually the Democrats, they're just like I, whatever, cuz, you know, they're soft, like that, right, but I Agree, I don't think it's racist, but he needs to get.

00:43:35.675 --> 00:43:40.313
He needs to get his shit together, or at least his people need to Figure out a plan.

00:43:40.333 --> 00:43:46.079
You know I'm saying when he comes out and does these public appearances To to look somewhat representative.

00:43:46.079 --> 00:43:46.702
You see them.

00:43:46.702 --> 00:43:49.253
The other day, when he had the cue cards in his hand, he's like show them.

00:43:49.253 --> 00:43:53.829
And it tells him like all the instructions, and he flips it over and there's even more notes in the back Like come on, man.

00:43:53.829 --> 00:44:00.264
I know it's customary for presidents to have like cue cards and shit like that, but nobody has ever shown them on camera like that.

00:44:01.652 --> 00:44:02.617
You know, that's what made it funny.

00:44:02.617 --> 00:44:06.039
Like his speech has got to be more like remedial.

00:44:06.039 --> 00:44:07.284
Like this is too much.

00:44:07.284 --> 00:44:09.210
Like you don't need to simplify this shit.

00:44:09.210 --> 00:44:11.257
Like you know how they had, like the state of the union.

00:44:11.257 --> 00:44:14.637
Then he's to put them up there like shit is hard.

00:44:14.637 --> 00:44:16.942
We're trying, we're gonna do better.

00:44:16.942 --> 00:44:17.523
Good night.

00:44:17.523 --> 00:44:19.673
Don't don't give no details.

00:44:19.673 --> 00:44:22.119
Don't give no numbers, no figures, like yo keep it.

00:44:22.159 --> 00:44:24.302
Yo just have Russell Simmons come out.

00:44:24.302 --> 00:44:24.884
Man for him.

00:44:24.884 --> 00:44:27.356
Mr Biden speaker.

00:44:27.356 --> 00:44:29.043
Russell Simmons, Thank you for coming out.

00:44:29.043 --> 00:44:29.907
God bless and good night.

00:44:29.907 --> 00:44:30.289
That's it.

00:44:30.751 --> 00:44:35.302
Yeah, keep it sure, and that would be, and that would be great if Russell didn't have some me too shit going.

00:44:35.302 --> 00:44:42.210
But you can't do that because Russell fucking up and I want to get back to the boy.

00:44:42.309 --> 00:44:43.032
That's cuz he don't eat.

00:44:43.032 --> 00:44:44.115
It's cuz he don't eat no meat.

00:44:44.115 --> 00:44:45.900
Russell's on his vegetarian shit.

00:44:45.900 --> 00:44:47.373
My fucker can't think clearly.

00:44:47.373 --> 00:44:48.476
He ain't getting no protein.

00:44:48.838 --> 00:44:56.690
He ain't getting the proper nutrients, his daughter had a problem with him doing wild shit, women had problem with him doing wild shit, and so on so forth.

00:44:56.690 --> 00:44:58.554
But I want to get back to that boy thing real quick.

00:44:58.554 --> 00:45:07.342
Yeah, and I hate using the as example, but it's because she's a woman and she's a relative and you know her pretty well, right?

00:45:07.342 --> 00:45:13.650
So let's say one day, like you know, you're living a lot, everyone's living a life.

00:45:13.650 --> 00:45:18.282
They're trying to you know, extremely tried to get to the best and Pete version themselves.

00:45:18.282 --> 00:45:18.461
Right?

00:45:18.461 --> 00:45:24.213
Let's say, like you decided to go out one when I like okay, we're gonna go to X place.

00:45:24.213 --> 00:45:27.922
And let's say your sister's like okay, I'll be there, I'm gonna bring my family.

00:45:27.922 --> 00:45:31.019
Like, all right, cool, she brings a friend and her friends in the friends white.

00:45:31.019 --> 00:45:32.612
How do you?

00:45:32.612 --> 00:45:34.137
How do you describe him?

00:45:34.137 --> 00:45:34.398
Like?

00:45:34.398 --> 00:45:35.119
Like, what is the question?

00:45:35.119 --> 00:45:35.561
You ask him?

00:45:35.561 --> 00:45:37.893
Trust me, I got it.

00:45:37.893 --> 00:45:40.601
I'm not certain what the answer is, but what is it that you say?

00:45:42.231 --> 00:45:44.498
If she brings a white boy, a white dude over.

00:45:46.612 --> 00:45:48.182
Ding, ding, ding.

00:45:48.182 --> 00:45:54.400
For some reason we always called them white boy or white girl and that's just came out to.

00:45:54.460 --> 00:45:55.322
I was it even exactly.

00:45:55.751 --> 00:46:01.653
I knew it, I fucking knew it, because we never say who's this white man or who's no, they all say was white boy.

00:46:01.653 --> 00:46:02.556
Who this white girl?

00:46:02.556 --> 00:46:05.802
They always say that I knew you're gonna fucking say it.

00:46:05.802 --> 00:46:08.056
They can't help themselves, right they?

00:46:08.097 --> 00:46:08.778
was that is that?

00:46:08.778 --> 00:46:09.481
Was that racist of me?

00:46:10.010 --> 00:46:11.295
No, no, it's almost.

00:46:11.295 --> 00:46:13.501
It's like when I'm built in triggers in your mind right.

00:46:13.501 --> 00:46:17.242
Some reason you can't call them white man, you can't call them white woman.

00:46:17.242 --> 00:46:20.512
But for some you always say white boy, oh right, girl.

00:46:20.512 --> 00:46:21.414
But immediately.

00:46:21.514 --> 00:46:23.782
but saying black boy or black girl, that's not a thing.

00:46:23.782 --> 00:46:26.253
He's a black boy, he's a black girl.

00:46:26.554 --> 00:46:30.483
No, no, no, because when it comes to people of color, there's a descriptor there.

00:46:30.483 --> 00:46:32.032
They're always a.

00:46:32.032 --> 00:46:33.755
You never say like what is he?

00:46:33.755 --> 00:46:37.650
Oh, he's black, or he's Hispanic, he's German, he's this.

00:46:37.650 --> 00:46:37.992
He's that.

00:46:37.992 --> 00:46:44.074
Whenever you see someone white, they're always white boy or they are white girl.

00:46:44.074 --> 00:46:51.202
No matter what you do and as much you try to fight it, she government like they have a conversation and like he walks away.

00:46:51.202 --> 00:46:53.210
You don't look at like who's the white boy?

00:46:53.210 --> 00:46:54.175
You can't help it.

00:46:54.175 --> 00:46:55.440
Fact, you can't do it.

00:46:56.144 --> 00:47:04.690
So the fact he's saying boy I think he was trying to say it to like to be hip or cool, use boy in the way that you think like, oh, like, oh, this is my boy.

00:47:04.690 --> 00:47:12.605
But depending on literally a slight twitch and tenor of your voice, boy can sound like boy.

00:47:12.605 --> 00:47:15.472
Just that little bit of a difference.

00:47:15.472 --> 00:47:19.742
But he said boy, he's right, he said it the way we generally said.

00:47:19.742 --> 00:47:24.289
He didn't sound like you know Fucking Colonel Sanders on the slave plant station saying boy.

00:47:24.289 --> 00:47:26.597
He didn't sound that way, but he said it.

00:47:26.597 --> 00:47:27.521
But also we also.

00:47:27.521 --> 00:47:29.869
Little defect, they also called them oh, jay, cool.

00:47:29.869 --> 00:47:32.335
You know this man not necessarily is right mind right now.

00:47:32.335 --> 00:47:33.797
So is it racist?

00:47:33.797 --> 00:47:35.181
No, is it hilarious?

00:47:35.181 --> 00:47:36.063
Yeah.

00:47:37.431 --> 00:47:40.902
All right, stick into the topic of is that racist, this one?

00:47:40.902 --> 00:47:42.389
I think this one is a more stronger one.

00:47:42.389 --> 00:47:47.717
I think this one is a more serious one and you let me know if you're familiar with the situation.

00:47:47.717 --> 00:47:50.652
I'm talking about the Erica Mena and spice situation.

00:47:50.652 --> 00:47:55.780
You know, erica Mena dated, uh, joe, but you know about this.

00:47:55.780 --> 00:47:56.702
You did Joe Biden, whatever.

00:47:56.702 --> 00:48:00.916
She dated a bunch of fucking rappers and she's been on, you know, loving hip-hop.

00:48:02.070 --> 00:48:05.065
Safari so far, she dated so far, she got two kids with him and ever.

00:48:05.065 --> 00:48:21.699
And then you know we have spice, who's also on the show loving hip-hop and she's, you know, a dancehall queen and she does the reggae and they got into a little altercation and they were, they got into a shouting match and spice said something about her kids, right, she's like oh, that's why your son doesn't even love you.

00:48:21.699 --> 00:48:31.664
And you know, when you mention Erica Mena has said, when you mention her kids, she blacks out, right and she gets, she goes into a dark place and all bets are off and she's gonna insult you any way she can.

00:48:31.664 --> 00:48:38.123
So her former Vin saw was calling spice a fucking monkey, shoot specifically a blue monkey.

00:48:38.123 --> 00:48:45.976
She was like you, fucking monkey, even did the monkey sounds like, even did that Flip the table over.

00:48:45.976 --> 00:48:48.570
And then she proceeded to say I hope you know you should have died.

00:48:49.012 --> 00:48:51.269
You know anybody that knows spice had some surgery.

00:48:51.269 --> 00:48:59.759
She went to like the Dominican Republic and she was trying to get like a mommy makeover or whatever the fuck they get and she almost died from complications of the surgeries.

00:48:59.759 --> 00:49:05.081
So during the the fight, erica Mena called her a monkey and said you should have died.

00:49:05.081 --> 00:49:08.514
So now this is a this.

00:49:08.514 --> 00:49:09.978
So now this is a rhetorical question.

00:49:09.978 --> 00:49:11.181
But is that racist?

00:49:11.891 --> 00:49:15.373
Yeah, and then of course.

00:49:15.652 --> 00:49:16.456
And then, of course, now.

00:49:16.456 --> 00:49:17.798
So she gets fired from the show.

00:49:17.798 --> 00:49:19.081
So she's fired from loving hip-hop.

00:49:19.081 --> 00:49:21.579
She gets fired from another series that she was on call hush.

00:49:22.530 --> 00:49:23.072
That's a racist.

00:49:23.072 --> 00:49:24.235
Some layup right there, boy.

00:49:24.456 --> 00:49:25.601
So she's fucking up her bag.

00:49:25.601 --> 00:49:29.630
So now she's being apologetic after the fact, right, because she's being fired from all her gigs.

00:49:29.630 --> 00:49:35.563
Now she's like oh, I'm sorry, but I'm gonna use this as a, you know, as a teachable moment and whatever.

00:49:35.563 --> 00:49:39.318
And then, of course, you know, you're always gonna go the.

00:49:39.318 --> 00:49:42.811
The go-to is gonna be you know, I have black children, I have black friends.

00:49:42.811 --> 00:49:46.550
You know, zed, that's the go-to, right and I find it funny.

00:49:46.570 --> 00:49:50.327
She's Hispanic and when writes the white person's plea book right, yeah, she, you know.

00:49:50.347 --> 00:49:52.134
She said I'm half Dominican, I'm half Puerto Rican.

00:49:52.134 --> 00:49:53.208
You know, my kids are black.

00:49:53.208 --> 00:49:54.170
I date black men.

00:49:54.170 --> 00:49:57.097
I date, you know, whatever, whatever, all my friends are black, etc.

00:49:57.097 --> 00:49:57.628
Etc.

00:49:57.628 --> 00:49:59.702
I'm not racist, I don't have a racist bone in my body.

00:49:59.702 --> 00:50:03.172
She said, but in this moment you were racist.

00:50:03.172 --> 00:50:15.208
And when you have the ability to say a racist comment like that, then that opens the door to you being racist, whether it's consciously, unconsciously, self-consciously, you know a little bit.

00:50:15.208 --> 00:50:18.177
And even if you're just a 1% racist, you're a fucking racist.

00:50:21.929 --> 00:50:23.514
I got one drop of racist blood me.

00:50:23.514 --> 00:50:24.215
Yes, racist like.

00:50:25.146 --> 00:50:27.074
She said oh, she said about my kids.

00:50:27.074 --> 00:50:33.280
You know, I'm saying I blackout, we all bets are off, okay, so so you have to immediately go to the racist comments, right?

00:50:33.280 --> 00:50:37.085
You can't say, oh, that's why you're fat, oh, that's why you're ugly, oh, that's why you're bald.

00:50:37.085 --> 00:50:42.753
You know there's so many other insults you can throw at somebody, but you have to immediately go to the.

00:50:42.753 --> 00:50:50.123
You know, I mean the racist one, the skin color, the one that they've probably been hearing all their life, the one that they've been ridiculed about.

00:50:50.123 --> 00:50:51.168
You know, the entire life.

00:50:51.168 --> 00:50:52.615
You know I'm growing up.

00:50:52.615 --> 00:50:58.032
They've been heard that they're different because they're black or whatever, and that's the one that you immediately go to, that's your go-to.

00:50:58.032 --> 00:51:02.451
And then you say but I have black friends, I have black kids, I'm not a racist.

00:51:04.206 --> 00:51:06.273
You tell me she went to that shit without hesitation.

00:51:06.273 --> 00:51:07.235
Now that's the wild part.

00:51:07.235 --> 00:51:12.650
Like she knew exactly what she was saying and like, yeah, then your power does for that the words.

00:51:12.650 --> 00:51:19.313
See this, the whole thing about cop and please was some shit that you shouldn't Shouldn't been done, some shit you shouldn't say, some shit you shouldn't do.

00:51:20.036 --> 00:51:26.628
And the thing is that I Can't necessarily say this for myself, but I can.

00:51:26.628 --> 00:51:28.293
I feel comfortable saying it though.

00:51:28.293 --> 00:51:31.572
If you know what, let's let me rewind it.

00:51:31.572 --> 00:51:43.568
Let's just say, at this age, at this age, if you know, the shit that triggers you there almost needs to be like a Failsafe in your brain.

00:51:43.568 --> 00:51:47.559
Like I know, saying shit about my kids angers me without.

00:51:47.559 --> 00:52:03.432
But if I know that I need to make sure that if that does happen, I find a way not to React to the situation, to try to pull myself away from situations as fast as possible, because the fact that she said it was bad enough, you could let that slide.

00:52:03.432 --> 00:52:10.809
You could have just said you have blue hair, you kind of look like a monkey, like I just think it just means that you're ugly, great the money.

00:52:10.829 --> 00:52:12.373
Gotta leave out the word monkey all together.

00:52:12.672 --> 00:52:13.516
You probably do.

00:52:13.516 --> 00:52:21.715
But there's some leeway, like could you get kind of call somebody ugly the fact when the most she does the monkey sounds, it's over.

00:52:21.715 --> 00:52:23.489
You meant that shit.

00:52:23.489 --> 00:52:24.994
You know exactly what you were saying.

00:52:24.994 --> 00:52:27.047
You knew who you were saying it to.

00:52:27.047 --> 00:52:31.536
You knew what you were trying to equivocate by making those sounds, the fact that you do that.

00:52:31.536 --> 00:52:41.251
Then afterwards you're like you pull the white person's playbook, you say I'm sorry, I Apologize about my insensitivity.

00:52:42.054 --> 00:52:43.157
I know people of color.

00:52:43.157 --> 00:52:45.425
I'm, my children are people of color.

00:52:45.425 --> 00:52:47.472
I respect people of color.

00:52:47.472 --> 00:52:49.139
I'll never do it again.

00:52:49.139 --> 00:52:50.804
I'm gonna try harder.

00:52:50.804 --> 00:52:53.510
I don't need to have these kind of things in my life.

00:52:53.510 --> 00:52:57.429
I don't support racism and number 10, you can name it, whatever the fuck you are.

00:52:58.085 --> 00:53:00.150
There's your playbook and she reads directly from it.

00:53:00.150 --> 00:53:14.204
She doesn't say anything about you know her heritage as a Hispanic person, about the comments that haven't gone towards her, that she understands what those words mean and that she should have never said it.

00:53:14.204 --> 00:53:15.914
She was an idiot to say so.

00:53:15.914 --> 00:53:17.684
I know what kind of hurt.

00:53:17.684 --> 00:53:20.954
I know what kind of things happen from that, because I've experienced it myself.

00:53:20.954 --> 00:53:23.304
It was unnecessary for me to do so.

00:53:23.304 --> 00:53:23.965
I know what.

00:53:23.965 --> 00:53:34.916
Something that angered me and something that triggered me and I said something at the wrong place at the wrong time to a person that, even if I don't like them, don't deserve the kind of level of disrespect for me.

00:53:34.916 --> 00:53:41.385
Now, that is some shit I just really thought of off the top of my head and that would have went over a thousand times better than the shit she said.

00:53:41.385 --> 00:53:44.996
Right, really reading from the playbook doesn't solve racism.

00:53:44.996 --> 00:53:48.255
It makes you see more races because racist people say that shit all the time.

00:53:48.255 --> 00:53:52.000
So whatever comes of this is going to be what it's going to be.

00:53:52.000 --> 00:53:52.844
But is that racist?

00:53:52.844 --> 00:53:57.987
Yes, if she just called her a fucking blue monkey because she has blue hair and I think she's fucking ugly, so I called her the monkey.

00:53:57.987 --> 00:54:04.481
Yeah, the moment she makes the sounds, you wipe all that shit off the board because, of course, you're sensitive to shit.

00:54:04.782 --> 00:54:20.795
As a Latino or Afro Latina or however she describes herself as, and I'm pretty sure through her life she has dealt with things in regards to Sexism, discrimination, racism For years, so she knows that certain things that people say hurt.

00:54:20.795 --> 00:54:24.396
She said that shit to her to hurt her because of the shit she said about a child.

00:54:24.396 --> 00:54:26.929
She didn't say that a child hated her.

00:54:26.929 --> 00:54:28.434
She said the child didn't like her.

00:54:28.434 --> 00:54:32.130
That's true, kids don't like their parents at a particular age.

00:54:32.130 --> 00:54:32.891
It's fucking true.

00:54:32.891 --> 00:54:35.297
We don't like them, they barely like us.

00:54:35.297 --> 00:54:37.048
Hmm, but it but it.

00:54:37.148 --> 00:54:42.650
But she knew that if I said it's gonna hit a nerve in her and it comes to the situation she shouldn't did that, she shouldn't have said that.

00:54:42.650 --> 00:54:45.559
She should kind of just like I said that thing about kids before.

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Like I said, there have been incidents in the past that have triggered the same reaction, not to this level of racist vitro, but pissed her off to a particular point that she didn't find the time in the world and a grace to kind of Figure out how do I deal with this when it happens again, because it keeps on happening Every time is a thing she.

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She shouldn't have said it to her.

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I think homegirl should just accept the apologies mood of fuck home like just Sis, you do whatever you gotta do.

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Just don't cross the street looking for me, because I'm not doing this fit with you, because that was wrong.

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For her to say it wasn't a time of the place, it was a nasty word to say, and Still be it.

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I'm sorry, but yeah, that's just racist, all right.

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So finally, is Erica men are racist.

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We know she said some racist shit, but is she racist?

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no, no, no, I think anger can Bring out the most extreme reactions of people and I think when you're anger and you're angry, you don't want to understand, you want to hurt.

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So I'm gonna say the most hurtful thing I can toward you.

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So I don't think she says it all.

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I think that she just doesn't like her and probably thinks about like her that all the what, all the time.

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Yeah, she probably does think she's ugly, probably doesn't think that she's a good human being, but it's necessarily like hate her as a person, like like racism, kind of reveals that trait.

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I think you caught her in a very vulnerable moment and it calls her to be extremely angry, and extreme anger brings out extreme reactions and that was just one of them.

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And no, I don't think she's racist.

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I think she's had a terrible fucking moment.

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The thing that makes it seem more recent that she kept pulling it from a playbook that everyone has read before Doing that.

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I know black people shit.

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My friends are black.

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Yeah, but that's the whole thing.

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I like when people say like my friends are black, black, well, do they consider you a friend?

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You said to them friends.

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But I mean you guys, you guys eat the same cafeteria or Hang out from time to time, all right, great.

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But are your friends like?

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You called them your friends?

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But will they call you their friend?

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Tricky, but yeah, but she's not racist.

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Just bad time, bad moment, bad words.

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All right, but that's our showman, the coach of podcast.

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This actually might be our first video podcast.

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Not sure yet depends how I feel, so you may or may not see it up on YouTube one day.

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Eventually, I see how it comes out.

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It might be our first one, though, but yo thank you for tuning in.

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Check out the website, the culture that one.

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Go read some of those blogs me be, reading my shit, man.

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I was good.

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This is randomly pop pop to my mind.

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No, I haven't, but I just haven't had time to read like I've been working my ass off.

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But um, this has nothing to do with anything we're talking about.

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What do you think about Jay Kirk good going to WWE and what do you think about the Rock showing back up?

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Well, the Rock is gonna boy Hollywood.

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Already the strike is over right in Hollywood, so I feel like we're probably not gonna see them.

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Yeah, so they're gonna start filming again.

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So I don't think we're gonna see the Rock anytime soon again.

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But Jade Cargill, yeah, I think, as a black athlete, I think she's gonna be good for WWE.

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She's a fucking big, strong woman.

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She's, she's a star.

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She already has the look.

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It's just a matter of her, you know, I mean getting the training and the proper training to actually Get in a WWE ring and look the part.

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And look in here with who?

00:58:16.731 --> 00:58:23.052
We, all of them with Charlotte, becky, bianca they gonna put it with all them shorties.

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Yeah, I don't want to.

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I don't want them to do the Bianca thing, like I don't want the black-on-black thing seems kind of.

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But they're gonna, but they're gonna I.

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Was, I was here, her and Charlotte, or her, and I'm Rear Ripley.

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Yes, yes, yes, that works great.

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Yes, some strong style shit exactly.

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If you're watching, you know the fuck you talking about.

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Grow up.

00:58:47.226 --> 00:58:48.030
They probably did grow.

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That's why they don't watch it a boy.

00:58:49.567 --> 00:58:54.798
Yeah, they age out of it like are y'all didn't say watch wrestling, like now, I don't watch wrestling, I'm a big story coming across.

00:58:54.798 --> 00:58:55.784
I want to see how it affects the whole.

00:58:55.784 --> 00:58:57.871
I like to think about things deeper than that.

00:58:57.871 --> 00:58:59.255
And she's a dope wrestler.

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Yeah, and she's married to a former baseball player, brandon Phillips.

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He played for the fucking reds.

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This is the reds.

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I remember him because I used to play.

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It was nice.

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Like 30 home runs, 150 strikeouts, like fuck man yeah.

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Wait did I get kids cuz they got, yeah, I think they got kids.

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They probably got kids.

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Because of America.

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You know all right cool.

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Goodbye y'all.

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We'll see y'all soon.

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Get the fuck on and do it.